From Steve_Greenfield@taligent.com Thu May 12 16:51:11 1994 Return-Path: Received: from tinman by oz.NeXT.COM (NX5.67e/NeXT0.1-Aleph-bf) id AA28421; Thu, 12 May 94 16:51:08 -0700 Received: from moat by tinman.NeXT.COM (NX5.67e/NeXT0.1-Aleph-bf) id AA09218; Thu, 12 May 94 16:51:05 -0700 Received: from taligent.com by Unicode.ORG (NX5.67c/NX3.0M) id AA17659; Thu, 12 May 94 16:16:28 -0700 Received: from qm.taligent.com by taligent.com with SMTP (5.67/23-Oct-1991-eef) id AA17210; Thu, 12 May 94 16:39:52 -0700 for Message-Id: <9405122339.AA17210@taligent.com> Date: 12 May 1994 16:36:55 -0800 From: "Steve Greenfield" Subject: UTC #60 Proper Minutes- Dra To: "UTC Committee" Subject: Time: 4:25 PM OFFICE MEMO UTC #60 Proper Minutes: Draft 1 Date: 5/12/94 Here is the first draft of the minutes from UTC #60 Proper. As always, any changes, please contact me immediately. I will be giving out hard copies at UTC #61 and we will be voting on them at that meeting. Thank you. Sincerely, Steve ==================================== UTC #60 Proper: Microsoft Corporation March 4th, 1994, 9:00 a.m. to 9:30 a.m. Attendees to UTC #60: Mike Kernaghan, Chairman of UTC Scribe: Steven A. Greenfield Representatives from Corporate Member Companies: John McConnell, Apple Computer, Inc. Tim Greenwood, Digital Equipment Corporation F. Avery Bishop, Digital Equipment Corporation Mike Ksar, Hewlett-Packard Company Don Carroll, Hewlett-Packard Company Mike Weiss, Hewlett-Packard Company John Gioia, IBM Corporation David Oberman, IBM Corporation Asmus Freytag, Microsoft Corporation Michel Suignard, Microsoft Corporation Rick McGowan, NeXT Computer, Inc. Lloyd Honomichl, Novell, Inc. Joan Aliprand, Research Libraries Group, Inc. Mark Davis, Taligent, Inc. Arnold Winkler, Unisys Corporation Stuart Smith, WordPerfect Corporation Representatives from Associate Member Companies: Tuoc Vinh Luong, Borland International Individual Members in Attendance: James Caldwell, Pacific Rim Connections, Inc. Anas Jarrah, Multi-Lingual Software Tex Texin, Progress Software Observers to UTC: None Document Registration: UTC60-94-000 Agenda UTC60-94-001 Report from EASC UTC60-94-002 UTF-7 UTC60-94-003 Proposal For The Inclussion of Gluers (Paper from Gamma) Let the Minute Show that: The Membership Roster will be known as a standing document from this meeting forward. An updated set of rosters will be handed out at each UTC. UIW #5 WORKSHOP: Approximately 10K of the workshop brochures were made, with 85% handed out so far. All will be used by the workshop date. Action Item #1 - Asmus Freytag/All Members: The brochure will be sent out via e-mail to several distribution lists. Asmus Freytag will distribute copies to five major distribution lists he will access. He will also provide a copy to the main representative of each corporate member. They are then to distribute these to any distribution lists they deem appropriate. Action Item #2 - F. Avery Bishop: F. Avery Bishop will type the Japanese brochure into an e-mail. This will be sent to the "unicore" dl for distribution by members to aliases they deem appropriate. Move to Taligent: Unicode, Inc. will be moving on March 15, 1994. Headquarter's address and phone number will changed. Roster Updates: There was discussion concerning the way Updates should be handled via e-mail. One proposal was to send the members only the changes, additions, etc. so that members will not have conflicting rosters. More discussion is needed before being implemented. Calendar in Review: -UTC Meetings UTC #61 will be hosted on Thursday, June 2, 1994, at Taligent, Inc. Note that the X3L2 meeting is scheduled for June 3 (and June 4, if necessary). The UIW SC will hold their meeting on Wednesday, June 1, 1994. UTC #62 was to be hosted by IBM-Canada on September 8 & 9, 1994, but needs to be rescheduled. UTC #63 will be hosted by Borland International in December 1994. -X3L2 Meetings: X3L2 meeting to be held in Cupertino, at Taligent on June 3 & 4, 1994. Action Item #3 - Mike Kernaghan: Mike Kernaghan will send out an e-mail to members on April 27, 1994 stating whether June 1, 1994 will be needed for the UIW SC. Action Item #4 - Steve Greenfield: Steve Greenfield should make sure that the caledars for X3L2 and WG2 will be placed on the Agenda's Calendar in Review. UTC SC portion of meeting: Scripts & Symbols SC - Rick McGowan, Chair: IBM Proposal paper. Clarification of process for character submissions. Action Item #5 - Mark Davis: Mark Davis is to produce a "Defect Report" list and place on the FTP site. Should include erroneous illustrations for APL uptack in Version 1.1. Action Item #6 - All members: Members are requested to submit to Rick McGowan all character renditions. These will be solidified into one larger listing for submission and discussion. They will also be posted on the ftp site. Implentation SC, John Gioia, Chair: Editing Implementation Document for Unicode. John Gioia was asked to take over job by Frank Rojas. POTENTIAL LOGO IMPLEMENTATION: The use of Unicode Logo with Vendor products. Asmus Freytag gave a quick history of logo program. Unicode, Inc.'s Directors ruled out the implementation of a 'heavy" branding program, but gave the go-ahead to work out the details of a light-weight logo licensing program. The UTC is charged with defining the idea of practical conformance and the criteria for using the Unicode Standard. John McConnell then gave a detailed discussion on Apple Computer, Inc.'s requirements for use of the Unicode logo in the user interface. Let the Minutes show that: Asmus Freytag has been elected as a collector of the suites of testing products for proving a product is Unicode-conformant. Members are asked to submit their ideas to Asmus Freytag at "asmus_freytag@unicode.org". UIW SC, Lloyd Honomichl, Chair: Lloyd Honomichl and Mike Kernaghan met with CCI, the Consortium's trade show vendor/organizer. Discussion included detailed logistics and the proofing of some papers that were submitted. A time schedule was also established. Action Item #7 - Mike Kernaghan: Mike Kernaghan will send out an e-mail to the UTC members detailing the time schedule. Architecture SC, Mark Davis, Chair: 1) Gluers 2) ISLetter (UTF-7) 3) Case Mappings 4) UTF-16 5) Composition vs. decomposition 6) UTF-7 Review needed. Please refer to the minutes submitted by Mark Davis, Chair of the Architecture SC, for more detailed discussions. Let the Minutes show that: Mark Davis of Taligent, Inc. and Asmus Freytag of Microsoft Corporation are to co-author the Dean Abramson paper for addition to the book on the Unicode Standard. Action Item #8 - Asmus Freytag: Asmus Freytag will contact Gamma Productions, Inc. about the results from the Architecture SC. EASC, Mark Davis, Substitute: IRG is being held in Hanoi, Vietnam with Glenn Adams and Lee Collins representing the U.S.A. and Unicode, Inc. There are still some actions outstanding regarding BIG Five. All action items were dealt with from John Jenkins' paper. Editorial SC, Mark Davis, Chair: Action Item #9 - Mark Davis: Mark Davis is to place a folder for errata to be placed on the FTP Site. These are then to be determined and verified. Changes are to include the exact text to be replaced. Technical Reports. Mark Davis would like to have members review his paper on "Combining Marks" so that it may be produced as a Unicode Technical Report in the future. Action Item #10 - Mark Davis: Mark Davis is to send a reminder to the members so that his paper may be reviewed at UTC #61. Action item #11 - Asmus Freytag: Asmus Freytag is to check with Dynalab on font use for Hangul, 1150 or 1175. Action Item #12 - James Caldwell: James Caldwell is to contact ? to see about font use from them. Must be full hangul set. FAQ Update: Joan Aliprand gave a briefing on the FAQ project and what is being accomplished. Action Item #13 - Joan Aliprand/Asmus Freytag: Joan Aliprand is to send a copy of the Printed FAQ's to Asmus Freytag before it goes out. Action Item #14 - Joan Aliprand: Joan Aliprand is to provide an outline to the marketing committee via e-mail on the FAQ Topics. The Marketing Committee is then to take this outline and narrow it's topics into catagories. This is to be done by UTC #61. End of Meeting at 4:35 p.m.