UTC 113 & INCITS Subgroup L2 210 Joint Meeting
San Jose, CA -- October 17-19, 2007
Hosted by OMG and Adobe

Meeting Logistical Information
October 19, 2007

UTC Symbols Subcommittee meeting time:

    Wednesday, October 17        11:10 - 12:00

UTC Script Subcommittee meeting time:
    Wednesday, October 17        3:10 pm to 4:30 pm

UTC Plenary meeting times:
    Wednesday, October 17       10:00 am to 5:30 pm 
    Thursday, October 18            10:30 am to 5:30 pm
    Friday, October 19                9:30 am to 3:00 pm

L2 Plenary meeting time:
    Friday, October 19               3 pm to 5 pm

Scheduled activities:

Agenda Item


Day and Time (PST)

Call-in Information
D Symbols

Wednesday,  11:10 am - noon
Toll-Free (US & Canada): 866-500-6738
Toll: 203-480-8000
Participant Pass code: 741167
B.14 Properties

Wednesday, 1:00 - 1:50 pm

see above
B.11 Public Review Issues

Wednesday, 2:00 - 2:50 pm
see above
C. Scripts
  C.4 Phonetic and Shona characters
  C.8 Old Lisu

Priest, Cheuk
Wednesday, 3:10 - 4:30 pm
  C.4 at 3:10 pm
  C.8 at 4:00 pm
see above
F.1 Ask the UTC

Wednesday, 4:30 - 5 pm
see above

Ad  Hoc Meeting Rooms:

Ad Hoc Subject Person Day and Time (PST) Location Call-in Information
D.1 Japanese TV Symbols
Thursday, 12:00 - 1:00 pm

B.1.9 Policy on Dandas
Friday, 12:00 - 1 pm

Related meetings:



Day and Time (PST)

Location Call-in Information
Annual Unicode Members Meeting
Thursday, 9:30 to 10:30 am

TC Procedures posted at: http://www.unicode.org/consortium/tc-procedures.html

A. Administrative Issues

A.1 UTC membership roll call
  A.1.1 Call for proxies
  A.1.2 Roll call

A.2 Declaration of joint meeting

A.3 Registration of new documents

A.4 Approval of joint meeting agenda
  Latest version of this document [L2/07-344]

A.5 Minutes and action items
  A.5.1 Review of minutes
    A.5.1.1 Joint Meeting UTC 112/L2 209
  A.5.2  Action Items
    A.5.2.1 Review of open action items [L2/SD2, L2/07-355]]
    A.5.2.2 Recently closed action items [McGowan, L2/07-356]
  Minutes publicly posted at http://www.unicode.org/unicode/consortium/utc-minutes.html

A.6 Calendar review
  UTC 114/L2 211 - February 4-8, 2008, Cupertino, host, Apple, Members Mtg
  UTC 115/L2 212 - May 12-16, 2008, San Jose, host, Adobe
  UTC 116/L2 213 - August 11-15, 2008, Redmond, host, Microsoft
  UTC 117/L2 214 - November 3-7, 2008, Mountain View, host, Google  Annual Members Mtg

  Calendar posted at http://www.unicode.org/unicode/timesens/calendar.html

A.7 Letter ballot review

A.8 Schedule ad hoc meetings

A.9 Membership update

B. Liaison Reports and Technical Topics

B.1  WG2
  B.1.1 Convenor's report [Ksar]
  B.1.2 Liaison report [Constable, L2/07-329]
  B.1.3 WG2 action items [Umamaheswaran, L2/07-382]
  B.1.4 Amendments/Ballots
    B.1.4.1 Amendment 4
      B. Disposition of comments on SC2 N 3943 (FPDAM text for Amendment 4 to ISO/IEC 10646:2003) (WG2 N3344) [Suignard, L2/07-317]
      B. Summary of repertoire for FDAM4 of ISO/IEC 10646:2003 and future amendments (WG2 N3348) [Everson, L2/07-321]
    B.1.4.2 Amendment 5
      B. Disposition of comments on SC2 N 3940 (PDAM text for Amendment 5 to ISO/IEC 10646:2003) (WG2 N3345R) [Suignard, L2/07-318]
      B. Summary of repertoire for FDAM5 of ISO/IEC 10646:2003 and future amendments (WG2 N3349) [Everson, L2/07-322]
    B.1.4.3 Amendment 6
      B. Proposed modification to program of work (WG2 N3358) [WG2, L2/07-326]
      B. Summary of repertoire for PDAM6 of ISO/IEC 10646:2003 and future amendments (WG2 N3356) [Everson, L2/07-324]
  B.1.5 Consent docket [Whistler, L2/07-353]
  B.1.6 WG2 minutes and resolutions [Umamaheswaran]
    B.1.6.1 Resolutions of WG2 meeting 51 (WG2 N3354R) [WG2, L2/07-323]
    B.1.6.2 Unconfirmed minutes of WG2 meeting 51 (WG2 N3353) [WG2 L2/07-381]
  B.17 Changing K5 source reference format from K5-dddd to K5-hhhh (WG2 N3359) [Korea NB, L2/07-327]
  B.1.8  New edition
    B.1.8.1 Proposed modification to program of work (WG2 N3360) [WG2, L2/07-328]]
    B.1.8.2 Proposal for a new edition of ISO/IEC 10646 (WG2 N3362) [WG2, L2/07-330]
  B.1.9 Policy on Dandas

B.2 SC2/SC22/SC34/SC35/SC36/TC37/SC29
  B.2.1 Liaison report [Ksar]
  B.2.2 JTC/SC documents

  B.3.1 Liaison report [Jenkins]

  B.4.1 Liaison report [Ksar]

  B.5.1 Liaison report [McGowan] 

B.6 W3C
  B.6.1 Liaison report [Davis]
  B.6.2 MathML liaison report [Sargent]  

B.7 UC Berkeley Department of Linguistics - Script Encoding Initiative
  B.7.1 Liaison report [Anderson, L2/07-380]

B.8 ILCAA (Institute for Languages and Cultures of Asia and Africa)  

  B.9.1 Liaison report [Kaplan]

  B.10.1 Liaison report [Davis]

B.11 Public Review Issues
  B.11.1  Issue 102: Review of Proposed Update Unicode Standard Annex #15: Unicode Normalization Forms
    B.11.1.1 Feedback
      B. General feedback [L2/07-350]
      B. Changes to UAX#15 re. Stream Safe Text Format  [Dürst, L2/07-369]
   B.11.1.2 Document for review [Davis, Dürst, L2/07-358]
  B.11.2 Issue 103: Review of Proposed Update Unicode Standard Annex #29: Text Boundaries
    B.11.2.1 Feedback
      B. General feedback [L2/07-350]
      B. Small change to UAX#29 [Davis, L2/07-383]
      B. Comments [Edberg, L2/07-399]
    B.11.2.2 Document for review [Davis, L2/07-359]
  B.11.3 Issue 104: Review of Proposed Update Unicode Standard Annex #31: Identifier and Pattern Syntax
    B.11.3.1 Feedback
      B. General feedback [L2/07-350]
    B.11.3.2 Document for review [Davis, L2/07-360]
  B.11.4 Issue 105: Review of Proposed Update Unicode Standard Annex #14: Line Breaking Properties
    B.11.4.1 Feedback
      B. General feedback [L2/07-350]
      B. Linebreak test files [Davis, L2/07-335]
      B. Line Break Chart [Davis, L2/07-336]
      B. LinebreakTest-5.0.1.txt - data file [Davis, L2/07-337]
      B. Shorten lists of characters [Heninger, L2/07-384]
    B.11.4.2 Document for review [Heninger, L2/07-361]
  B.11.5 Issue 108: Ideographic Variation Database submission
B.11.5.1 Feedback
      B. General feedback [L2/07-350]
    B.11.5.2 Document for review
  B.11.6 Issue 109: Review of Proposed Draft Unicode Technical Report #42: An XML Representation of the UCD
B.11.6.1 Feedback
      B. General feedback [L2/07-350]
    B.11.6.2 Document for review [Muller, L2/07-362]
  B.11.7 Issue 110: Review of Proposed Update Unicode Standard Annex #24: Script Names
    B.11.7.1 Feedback
      B. General feedback [L2/07-350]
    B.11.7.2 Document for review [Davis, Whistler, L2/07-363]
  B.11.8 Issue 111: Review of Proposed Update Unicode Technical Standard #18: Unicode Regular Expressions
    B.11.8.1 Feedback
      B. General feedback [L2/07-350]
      B. UTS#18 suggested changes [Davis, Heninger, L2/07-349]
    B.11.8.2 Document for review [Davis, L2/07-364]
  B.11.9 Issue 112: Review of Proposed Update Unicode Standard Annex #9: Unicode Bidirectional Algorithm
    B.11.9.1 Feedback
      B. General feedback [L2/07-350]
    B.11.9.2 Document for review [Davis, L2/07-365]
  B.11.10 Issue 113: Review of Proposed Update Unicode Technical Standard #10: Unicode Collation Algorithm
    B.11.10.1 Feedback
      B. General feedback [L2/07-350]
    B.11.10.2 Document for review [Davis, Whistler, L2/07-366]
  B.11.11 Issue 114: Review of Proposed Update Unicode Standard Annex #34: Unicode Named Character Sequences
    B.11.11.1 Feedback
      B. General feedback [L2/07-350]
    B.11.11.2 Document for review [Whistler, L2/07-367]

B.12 Unicode Technical Reports, Standards, and Standard Annexes
  B.12.1 Branding and Tech Report Titles [Davis, L2/07-339]
  B.12.2 UCD.html as a UAX [Davis. L2/07-338]
  B.12.3 Proposed Draft Unicode Technical Report #43, A User's Guide to the UniTangut Database [Cook, L2/07-290]
    B.12.3.1 UniTangut.txt draft data file [Cook, L2/07-291]

B.13 Editorial Committee
  B.13.1 Errata
  B.13.2 Editorial Committee report [Whistler]
  B.13.3 Content of rejected.html page [Umamaheswaran]
  B.13.4 Unicode 5.1
    B.13.4.1 Unicode 5.1 Beta
    B.13.4.2 Ill-formed UTF-8 sequences [Whistler, Davis, L2/07-351]
    B.13.4.3 Casing language [Davis, L2/07-368]

B.14 Properties 
  B.14.1 Review property values for newly approved scripts and characters
  B.14.2 Script consistency issue for compatibility Greek accents [Whistler, L2/07-202]
  B.14.3 Word/sentence punctuation properties [Davis, L2/07-370, L2/07-398]
  B.14.4 Deprecating stateful controls [Davis, L2/07-341]
  B.14.5 U+1680 OGHAM SPACE MARK shouldn't be white space [Davis, L2/07-340]
    B.14.5.1 Comments on L2/07-340 "OGHAM SPACE MARK shouldn't be whitespace" [Everson, L2/07-392]
  B.14.6 Prepending characters in XCCS [Davis, L2/07-389]
  B. 14.7 Provisional Named Sequences
    B.14.7.1 Provisional Named Sequences Review [Whistler]
    B.14.7.2 Proposal to add Tamil sequences to NamedSequencesProv.txt [Davis, L2/07-331]
  B.14.8 Middle Dots and Don'ts (change U+1091F PHOENICIAN WORD SEPARATOR MIDDLE DOT) [Whistler, L2/07-258]

B.15 Reports from Subcommittees
  B.15.1 Script Subcommittee [McGowan]
  B.15.2 South Asian Script Subcommittee [Muller]
  B.15.3 Symbols Subcommittee [Scherer]

C. Script Subcommittee

C.0 Review of script documents requested by WG2

C.1 Greek mute iota
  C.1.1 Representation of Greek mute iota (response to L2/07-068) [Hudson, L2/07-198]

  C.1.2 Input on Greek mute iota [Anderson, L2/07-263]
C.2 Proposal to encode the Livre Tournois sign [Sewell, L2/07-332]

C.3  CJK Ideographs
  C.3.1 Proposal to add 21 CJK Unified Ideographs [Lunde, L2/07-333]

  C.3.2 Proposal to encode 6 CJK Ideographs (WG2 N3318) [Japan NB, L2/07-387]
C.4 Proposal to add two phonetic characters and two Shona characters [Priest, L2/07-334]
C.5 Proposal for encoding Brahmi [Baums, Glass, L2/07-342]
C.6 Vedic

  C.6.1 Vedic Sanskrit (WG2 N3366) [Everson, Scharf, L2/07-343]

  C.6.2 Significant differences between L2/07-230 and L2/07-343 [Scharf, L2/07-394]

  C.6.3 Outline of the development of WG2/n3290 = L2/07-230 [Scharf, L2/07-262]
  C.6.4 Comparison of proposed characters in Lata 2006 (L2/06-185) with Scharf and Everson WG2/n3290 (L2/07-230). [Scharf, L2/07-271]

  C.6.5 Unicode for Vedic Sanskrit (letter to Mark Davis) [Bhushan, L2/07-254]


  C.6.7 Comments on Comparison of proposed characters in Lata 2006 (L2/06-185) with Scharf and Everson WG2/N3290 (L2/07-230) [Joshi, L2/07-386]

  C.6.8 Following observations have been made with reference to L2/07-095 [Joshi, L2/07-388]

  C.6.9  New Vedic proposal from India, MIT
    C.6.9.1 Cover letter [India, MIT, L2/07-395]
    C.6.9.2 Proposal [India, MIT, L2/07-396]
    C.6.9.3 Evidence [India, MIT, L2/07-397]
  C.6.10  Comments on new Vedic proposal from India
    C.6.10.1 Comments on R. K. Joshi's documents L2/07-386 and L2/07-388 [Scharf, L2/07-400]
    C.6.10.2 Equivalences between L2/07-396 and L2/07-343 [Scharf, L2/07-401]

C.7 Miao (Pollard)
  C.7.1 Preliminary proposal for encoding the Northeastern Yunnan Simple Miao script (WG2 N3335) [China NB, L2/07-299]
  C.7.2 Feedback on preliminary proposal for Northeastern Yunnan Simple Miao (WG2 N3335) [Anderson, L2/07-352]
  C.7.3 Proposal to add Pollard [Jenkins, L2/97-104

C.8 Old Lisu (Fraser)
  C.8.1 Proposal for encoding Old Lisu script (WG2 N3317R2) [China NB, L2/07-357]

  C.8.2 Fraser's Lisu orthography: research notes [Cook, L2/07-294]

  C.8.3 Towards an encoding of the Fraser script [Everson, L2/07-297]

C.9 Nüshu
  C.9.1 Proposal for encoding Nüshu (WG2 N3287) [China NB, L2/07-371]

  C.9.2 Comments on Nüshu Proposal by the Chinese NB N3287 (WG2 N3322) [Anderson, L2/07-300]

  C.9.3 Reply to WG2N3322 - UC Berkeley's comments on Nüshu (WG2 N3337) [China NB, L2/07-303]

  C.9.4 Proposal for encoding Nüshu (Powerpoint) (WG2 N3340) [China NB, L2/07-315]
C.10 Malayalam
  C.10.1 Correction to L2/07-129, L2/07-090 (dot reph, nta) [Johny, L2/07-393]
    C.10.1.1 Malayalam Chillus in grapheme clusters [Johny, L2/07-402]

  C.10.2 Proposal to add three characters for Malayalam (N3295) [Everson, L2/07-283]
C.11 Old Turkic (Orkhun)
  C.11.1 Proposal for encoding the Old Turkic script (WG2 N3357) [China, Ireland, UK, SEI, L2/07-325]
  C.11.2 Proposing to Supplement with the special character for Uyghur Orkhun to ISO/IEC 10646 (WG2 N3299) [China NB, L2/07-305]
  C.11.3 Proposing to Supplement with the special character for Uyghur Orkhun to ISO/IEC 10646 (WG2 N3258) [China NB, L2/07-216]
C.12 Javanese
  C.12.1 Proposal for encoding the Javanese script (WG2 N3319R) [SEI/Everson, L2/07-295]
  C.12.2 Javanese government support for encoding the Javanese script [Everson, L2/07-298]
C.13 Avestan Separation Point
  C.13.1 Comments on the Avestan Separation Point (WG2 N3336) [Anderson, L2/07-304]
C.14 Tangut
  C.14.1 Tangut background [Cook, L2/07-289]
  C.14.2 Response to UC Berkeley’s proposals on Tangut (WG2 N3338) [China NB, L207-301]
  C.14.3 Expert feedback on Chinese NB input on Tangut Encoding Proposal (WG2 N3343) [Cook, L2/07-302]

C.15 Update on Lanna [Priest]

D. Symbols Subcommittee

D.1 Japanese TV symbols [Suignard, L2/07-391]

E. South Asian Subcommittee

F. Miscellaneous

F.1 Ask the UTC

G. Close of Joint Meeting

G.1 Review of UTC motions (recommendations to L2) [L2/07-346]

G.2 UTC position on current ballots [Muller]

G.3 Closing of joint meeting