UTC 117 & INCITS Subgroup L2 214 Joint Meeting
Cupertino, CA -- November 3-7, 2008
Hosted by Apple

Meeting Logistical Information
November 6, 2008

UTC South Asian Subcommittee meeting time:

    Monday, November 3                10:30 am to 12:30 pm

UTC Script Subcommittee meeting time:
    Monday, November 3                1:30 pm to 5:30 pm

    Tuesday, November 4                9:30 am to 12:30 pm

UTC Symbols Subcommittee meeting time:
    Tuesday, November 4                1:30 am to 5:30 pm

UTC Plenary meeting times:
    Wednesday, November 5           9:30 am to 5:30 pm
    Thursday, November 6              10:30 am to 11:30 am and 1:30 pm to 5:30 pm
    Friday, November 7                  9:30 am to 4:00 pm

Annual Members Meeting:
    Thursday, November 6              9:30 am to 10:30 am

L2 Plenary meeting time:

    Friday, August 15                      4 pm to 5 pm

Scheduled activities:

Agenda Item


Day and Time (PST)

Call-in Information
C.12 Newton Alchemical Symbols Newman, Anderson
Monday, 1:30 pm
Toll-Free (US & Canada): 866-500-6738
Toll: 203-480-8000
Participant Pass code: 741167
B1. WG2
Ksar, et al Thursday, 1:30 pm
same as above

same as above

Ad  Hoc Meeting Rooms:

Ad Hoc Subject Person Day and Time (PST) Location Call-in Information

same as above

Related meetings:



Day and Time (PST)

Location Call-in Information

same as above

TC Procedures posted at: http://www.unicode.org/consortium/tc-procedures.html

A. Administrative Issues

A.1 UTC membership roll call
  A.1.1 Call for proxies
  A.1.2 Roll call

A.2 Declaration of joint meeting

A.3 Registration of new documents

A.4 Approval of joint meeting agenda [L2/08-360]
  Latest version of this document

A.5 Minutes and action items
  A.5.1 Approval of minutes
    A.5.1.1 Joint Meeting UTC 116/L2 213 [L2/08-253R]
    A.5.1.2 Joint Meeting UTC 115/L2 212 [L2/08-161R]
  A.5.2  Action Items
    A.5.2.1 Review of open action items [L2/SD2, L2/08-380]
    A.5.2.2 Recently closed action items [L2/08-381]
  Minutes publicly posted at http://www.unicode.org/unicode/consortium/utc-minutes.html

A.6 Calendar review
  UTC 118/L2 215 - February 2-6, 2009, Mountain View, host Unicode, Members Mtg
  UTC 119/L2 216 - May 11-15, 2009, San Jose, host Adobe
  UTC 120/L2 217 - August 10-14, 2009, Redmond, host Microsoft
  UTC 121/L2 218 - November 2-6, 2009, Bay Area, host TBD, Annual Members Mtg

  Calendar posted at http://www.unicode.org/unicode/timesens/calendar.html

A.7 Letter ballot review

A.8 Schedule ad hoc meetings

A.9 Membership update

B. Liaison Reports and Technical Topics

B.1  WG2
  B.1.1 Meeting reports
    B.1.1.1 Convenor's report [Ksar]
    B.1.1.2 Liaison report [Constable]
    B.1.1.3 IR's meeting report [Anderson, L2/08-398]
B.1.2 WG2 action items [Umamaheswaran, L2/08-413]
  B.1.3 WG2 minutes and resolutions
    B.1.3.1 Resolutions of WG2 meeting 53 (WG2 N3554) [Ksar, L2/08-368]
    B.1.3.2 Unconfirmed minutes of WG2 meeting 53 [Umamaheswaran, L2/08-412]
  B.1.4 Amendments/Ballots
    B.1.4.1  Amendment 6
      B. US Ballot comments on PDAM 6.2 [Anderson, L2/08-330]
      B. Summary of repertoire for FPDAM6 of ISO/IEC 10646:2003 (WG2 N3546) [Everson, Suignard, L2/08-366]
      B. Disposition of comments on SC2 N 3989 (PDAM text for Amendment 6 to ISO/IEC 10646:2003) [Suignard, L2/08-379]
    B.1.4.2 Amendment 7
      B. Summary of repertoire for PDAM7 of ISO/IEC 10646:2003 (WG2 N3547) [Everson, Suignard, L2/08-367]
      B. Project Subdivision Proposal for ISO/IEC 10646: 2003/Amendment 7 [WG2, L2/08-391]
  B.1.5 Consent docket [Whistler, L2/08-397]
  B.1.6 Review pipeline characters to ensure all new characters are in ballot comments or a separate document
  B.1.7 Suggested Update to 10646 Annex L, Character Naming Guidelines [Whistler, L2/08-266, L2/08-206]
  B.1.8 Handling CJK compatibility characters with variation sequences (WG2 N3525) [Lunde, Muller, L2/08-373]

B.2 SC2/SC22/SC34/SC35/SC36/TC37/SC29/TC12
  B.2.1 Liaison report [Ksar]
  B.2.2 JTC/SC documents
    B.2.2.1 Summary of voting on SC 2 N 4028, ISO/IEC 10646: 2003/PDAM 6.2 [SC2, L2/08-347]
    B.2.2.2 OWG-SORT (disposition of comments)
    B.2.2.3 ISO/DIS 80000-2: Quantities and units - Part 2: Mathematical signs and symbols to be used in the natural sciences and technology [NIST, L2/08-420]
      B. Comments on ISO/DIS 80000-2 [Sargent, L2/08-421]

  B.3.1 Liaison report [Jenkins]
  B.3.2 Resolutions of IRG meeting #30 [IRG, L2/08-409]
  B.3.3 Summary report of IRG meeting #30 [IRG, L2/08-410]

  B.4.1 Liaison report [Ksar]

  B.5.1 Liaison report [McGowan]
  B.5.2 IDNA
    B.5.2.1 IDNA preprocessing [Davis, L2/08-417]
    B.5.2.2 John Cowan's comments [L2/08-388]

B.6 W3C
  B.6.1 Liaison report [Davis]
  B.6.2 MathML liaison report [Sargent]  

B.7 UC Berkeley Department of Linguistics - Script Encoding Initiative
  B.7.1 Liaison report [Anderson, L2/08-401]

B.8 ILCAA (Institute for Languages and Cultures of Asia and Africa)  

  B.9.1 Liaison report [Kaplan]

B.10 Unicode Locales Project (CLDR)
  B.10.1 Liaison report [Davis]

B.11 Public Review Issues
  B.11.1 Issue 123:  Bengali currency numerator values
B.11.1.1 Feedback
     B. General feedback [L2/08-388]
   B.11.1.2 Document for review [Whistler, L2/08-288]
  B.11.2 Issue 124:  Review of Proposed Update Unicode Technical Report #23: The Unicode Character Property Model
B.11.2.1 Feedback
     B. General feedback [L2/08-388]
   B.11.2.2 Document for review [Whistler, L2/08-387]
  B.11.3 Issue 125: Review of Proposed Update Unicode Technical Report #33: Unicode Conformance Model
   B.11.3.1 Feedback
     B. General feedback [L2/08-388]
   B.11.3.2 Document for review [Whistler, L2/08-386]
  B.11.4 Issue 126: Review of Proposed Update Unicode Technical Report #17: Unicode Character Encoding Model
   B.11.4.1 Feedback
     B. General feedback [L2/08-388]
   B.11.4.2 Document for review [Whistler, L2/08-385]
  B.11.5 Issue 127: Review of Proposed Update Unicode Standard Annex #44: Unicode Character Database
   B.11.5.1 Feedback
     B. General feedback [L2/08-388]
   B.11.5.2 Document for review [Davis, Whistler, L2/08-384]
  B.11.6 Issue 128: Review of Proposed Update Unicode Technical Standard #37: Unicode Ideographic Variation Database
   B.11.6.1 Feedback
     B. General feedback [L2/08-388]
   B.11.6.2 Document for review [Muller, L2/08-383]
   B.11.6.3 Background document [Muller, L2/08-394]
B.11.7 Issue 129: Code point labels - suggested wording
   B.11.7.1 Feedback
     B. General feedback [L2/08-388]
   B.11.7.2 Document for review [Whistler, L2/08-382]
   B.11.7.3 Code point name label options [Davis, L2/08-423]
 B.11.8 Other feedback 

B.12 Unicode Technical Reports, Standards, and Standard Annexes
  B.12.1 Unicode Standard Annex#9: Unicode Bidirectional Algorithm
    B.12.1.1 Proposed clarifications in UAX #9 [Davis, L2/08-357]
    B.12.1.2 More bidi issues - mirroring [Freytag, L2/08-418]
    B.12.1.3 Specifying Boustrophedon in the Unicode Context [Freytag, L2/08-419]
  B.12.2 Unicode Technical Report #38: Unicode Han Database (Unihan)
    B.12.2.1 Simplified and Traditional Mappings in Unihan [Davis, L2/08-415]

B.13 Editorial Committee
  B.13.1 Errata
  B.13.2 Editorial Committee report [Whistler]
  B.13.3 Unicode 5.2, 6.0
B.14 Properties
  B.14.1 Proposal to Revert to the Original Properties of the Zero Width Space [Solá, L2/08-344]
  B.14.2 Character block name stability [Davis, Phillips, L2/08-346]
  B.14.3 Proposed Stability of Property and Property Value Aliases [Davis, L2/08-352]
  B.14.4 Proposal to change the bidi class of five bidi-mirrored, non-neutral characters [Iancu, L2/08-406]

B.15 Reports from Subcommittees
  B.15.1 Script Subcommittee [McGowan]
  B.15.2 South Asian Script Subcommittee  [Muller, L2/08-411]
  B.15.3 Symbols Subcommittee [Scherer]

B.16 Korean
  B.16.1 A response to AI-52-8 (WG2 N3535) [Korean NB, L2/08-375]
  B.16.2 Discussion of Korean in light of KS X 1026-1: 2007 [Constable]

B.17 gTLD Program
  B.17.1 New gTLD applicant guidebook public comment forum [ICANN, L2/08-402]
  B.17.2 New gTLD Program: Draft Applicant Guidebook (Draft RFP) [ICANN, L2/08-403]

B.18 Proposal to provide new UTC text discussing encoding conversion security issues [Edberg, Scherer, L2/08-407]

B.19 Mirrored ASCII [Davis, L2/08-414]

C. Script Subcommittee

C.0 Review of script documents requested by WG2

C.1 Tangut

  C.1.1 Proposal to encode Tangut radicals and CJK strokes (WG2 N3495; 13MB) [Everson, West, L2/08-335]
  C.1.2 Single-column Tangut code chart (using column G font) [Cook, L2/08-336]
  C.1.3 Review of proposed Tangut repertoire (WG2 N3496) [UK NB, L2/08-337]
  C.1.4 Expert feedback on the proposed Tangut character set in PDAM 6.2 (WG2 N3498) [Everson, West, L2/08-341]
  C.1.5 The UCS Tangut repertory (WG2 N3521) [Cook, Lunde, L2/08-349]
  C.1.6 Tangut 5 column chart [Cook, L2/08-259]
  C.1.7 Response from Tangut scholars of China on the Tangut Unicode proposal (WG2 N3539) [China NB, L2/08-376]
  C.1.8 Report from the Ad Hoc on Tangut (WG2 N3541) [Kolehmainen, L2/08-377]

  C.1.9 Comments on the Tangut radicals and strokes proposal [Cook, Anderson, L2/08-399]
  C.2.1 Unihan feedback [Smith, L2/08-281]
  C.2.2 Proposal to add SuperCJK 14.0 index data to Unihan [Cook, Lunde, L2/08-264]
  C.2.3 Proposal to Add a Set of Compatibility Ideographs for Government Use [Japan NB, L2/08-371]
  C.2.4 Revised proposal for Six urgently needed characters submitted for inclusion [Hong Kong SAR, L2/08-372]
  C.2.5 Proposal to add several named USIs derived from JIS X 0213 [Japan NB, L2/08-374]

  C.2.6 Multicolumn CJK charts (Suignard)
C.3 Proposal to encode additional Unified Canadian Aboriginal Syllabics [SEI/Everson, L2/08-342]
C.4 Bamum
  C.4.1 Proposal to encode modern Bamum in the SMP  [SEI/Everson, L2/08-350]

  C.4.2 Proposal to encode Old Bamum in the SMP  [SEI/Everson, L2/08-351]
C.5 Latin
  C.5.1 Proposal for Latin Cyrillic disunification [Ellert, L2/08-251]
    C.5.1.1 Proposal to disunify Zhuang tone letters from their Cyrillic look-alikes [Pentzlin, L2/08-393]

  C.5.2 Proposal to encode four Latin letters [Pentzlin, L2/08-404]

  C.5.3 Proposal to encode 10 Latin letters with diagonal stroke [Pentzlin, L2/08-405]
C.6 Kana
  C.6.1 Letter from Nozomu Kato to UTC, re Kana [Kato, L2/08-257]
  C.6.2 Japan's Input to N3388 (Two Kana Characters) (WG2 N3528) [Japan NB, L2/08-358]
  C.6.3 About WG2 N3528 [Kato, L2/08-359]
  C.6.4 Related documents [L2/07-421, L2/08-117L2/08-257]

C.7 Comments on Old South Arabian Names in N4034 [SEI/Anderson, L2/08-348]

C.8 The answer to the questions from Richard Cook and Deborah Anderson (Dongba/Geba) [China NB, L2/08-378]
C.9 Old Hungarian
  C.9.1 Revised proposal to encode the Old Hungarian script (WG2 N3531) [Everson, Szelp, L2/08-356]

  C.9.2 Hungarian Native Writing (WG2 N3526) [Gábor, L2/08-353]

  C.9.3 Szekler-Hungarian Rovas (WG2 N3527) [Hosszú, L2/08-354]

  C.9.4 Mapping between two Old Hungarian proposals (WG2 N3532) [[Everson, Szelp, L2/08-355]
C.10 Proposal to add two characters for New Tai Lue to the BMP [Everson, L2/08-395]
C.11 Nushu
  C.11.1 Review of Nushu Proposal (WG2 N3449) [UK NB, L2/08-345]

C.12  Proposal for Alchemy Symbols in Unicode [Newman, L2/08-390]
C.13 Proposal to encode a combining diacritical mark for Low German dialect writing [Pentzlin, L2/08-392]
C.14 Manichean [Everson, Durkin-Meisterernst, L2/08-271R2]
C.15 Arabic ghost characters
  C.15.1 Ghost Characters: Atomization-Combination Theory [Durrani, L2/08-343]
  C.15.2 Comments on Ghost Characters [Abou Aly, L2/08-396]

  C.15.3 Earlier documents

    C.15.3.1 Proposal to enhance the Unicode normalization algorithm [L2/03-171]
    C.15.3.2 Encoding Arabic extensions: options for the future of Unicode [L2/03-044]

    C.15.3.3 Generative Arabic: implementation options [L2/03-116]

    C.15.3.4 Proposal to encode productive Arabic-script modifier marks [L2/03-154]

D. Symbols Subcommittee

E. South Asian Subcommittee

E.1 Kaithi
  E.1.1 Proposal to add three Kaithi punctuation marks (WG2 N3544) [SEI/Anderson, L2/08-370]
Information on U+110BD KAITHI NUMBER SIGN [Anderson, L2/08-400]
E.2 Malayalam 
  E.2.1 Malayalam: Comparison of dot-reph proposals [Johny, L2/08-306]
  E.2.2 Malayalam: Valid combining mark contexts [Johny, L2/08-389]
E.3 Myanmar
  E.3.1 Proposal to change some characters for Myanmar Unicode 5.1 [L2/08-408]

F. Miscellaneous

F.1 Officers report to Unicode Board of Directors [Davis]

G. Close of Joint Meeting

G.1 Review of UTC motions (recommendations to L2) L2/08-362]

G.2 UTC position on current ballots [Muller]

G.3 Closing of joint meeting