L2/09-335

Pre-Preliminary Minutes of the UTC 121 / L2 218 Joint Meeting
Cupertino, CA -- November 2-6, 2009
Hosted by Apple

UTC #121 Agenda
Revision date: August 26, 2010


Day 1, Monday, November 2, 2009

Joint Meeting opened at 10:30

11 full members / 9 in regular attendance
4 inst members / 3 in regular attendance
1 supporting / 0 in reg attendance

Quorum is 7.

9 members represented: UCB, Adobe, Apple, Google, IBM, Yahoo, Sybase, MS, Sun (proxy)

Calendar review: UTC #125 / L2 #222 at Apple, [November 1-5, 2010]

A5.2.1 Action Item Review

[121-A1a] Action Item for Ken Whistler, Editorial Committee: Retire the UTF-8 sample code (CVTUTF code).

Lunch 11:30 - 12:30

B.9 Unicode Locales Project (CLDR)
B.9.1 Liaison report [Davis]
B.9.2 Proposal for CLDR to specify preferred character sequences [Edberg, L2/09-264]
B.9.3 Filtered Languages/Scripts

Oral reports by Mark.

B.11.3 Request for Corrigendum to UAX#14, Unicode Line Breaking Algorithm [Freytag, L2/09-315]

Brief discussion. (Will come back to it later.)

B.11.2 Formalized invariants [Davis, L2/09-222]

Note: There was an error in consensus numbering that was discovered only well after all the numbers had been assigned. There is no consensus with the number "C1" for this meeting.

[121-C2] Consensus: Mark Davis to prepare a background document explaining the invariant tests and asking for feedback on tests.

[121-A1b] Action Item for Mark Davis, Editorial Committee: Prepare a background document for a PRI on invariant tests. See L2/09-222.

[121-A2] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Post PRI on invariant tests to close January 26, 2010.

B.10.1 Issue 147: Proposed deprecation of U+0673 ARABIC LETTER ALEF WITH WAVY HAMZA BELOW

[121-A3] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Close PRI #147 with the status that it will be deprecated in Unicode 6.0.

B.13.2 ISO comment property [Davis]

[121-C3] Consensus: Mark the hyphen property be deprecated; and make the ISO comment property be both deprecated and stabilized.

[121-A4] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Update the metaproperty spreadsheet and UAX #44 text.

B.13.3 A framework for Unicode metaproperty maintenance [Whistler, L2/09-346]

Long discussion.

[121-A5] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Produce an update of L2/09-346 (metaproperty framework) and associated spreadsheet for the next meeting.

B.13.4 Cased and Case_Ignorable not disjoint [Scherer, L2/09-355]

Some discussion, to resume again later.

B.13.5 Normalization of Non-Zero Combining Marks [Scherer, L2/09-356]

[121-A6] Action Item for Markus Scherer, Editorial Committee: Take input L2/09-356 and add to normalization FAQ with review from editorial committee.

[121-C4] Consensus: Add text to composition exclusions in UAX #15 to exclude any sequence that would produce a character with non-zero combining class. Issue a proposed update of UAX #15 for public review.

[121-A7] Action Item for Ken Whistler, Editorial Committee: Update UAX #15 with the new text on composition exclusions. See L2/09-356.

[121-A8] Action Item for Ken Whistler, Editorial Committee: Post PRI for proposed update UAX #15, to close January 26, 2010.

[121-A9] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Update CompositionExclusions.txt. See L2/09-356 and above consensus 121-C4.

[121-A10] Action Item for Mark Davis: Add an invariant check for non-starter composition results. See L2/09-356 and above consensus 121-C4.

B.13.1.4 Discussion document for polishing Koranic support in Unicode [Pournader, L2/09-358R]

[121-A11] Action Item for Roozbeh Pournader, Editorial Committee: Create 2 background documents for Public Review Issues, for issues #1 and #3 in L2/09-358R

[121-A12] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Post the 2 PRIs on Arabic issues to close January 26, 2010.

[121-A13] Action Item for Roozbeh Pournader, Mark Davis: Create an Arabic web page on the overall Unicode goal to enable plain text representation of the Koran.


Day 2, Tuesday, November 3, 2009

Meeting opened at 9:35.

8 members represented: Apple, Yahoo!, Google, MS, UCB, Adobe, Sun (proxy), IBM.

Quorum is 7.

By phone: Laurentiu Iancu.

B.11.3 Request for Corrigendum to UAX#14, Unicode Line Breaking Algorithm [Freytag, L2/09-315]

[121-C5] Consensus: Issue a corrigendum as recommended by L2/09-315.

[121-A14] Action Item for Eric Muller, Editorial Committee: Prepare and issue a corrigendum for UAX #14 as recommended by L2/09-315.

[121-A15] Action Item for Andy Heninger, Editorial Committee: Resolve inconsistency in the note under LD8 of UAX #14 and examine other usages of direct and indirect break in the document for problems.

[121-A15a] Action Item for Andy Heninger: Prepare and issue a proposed update for UAX #14.

[121-A15b] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Post a PRI for proposed update to UAX #14, to close January 26, 2010.

[121-C6] Consensus: Issue a proposed update for UAX #14 for Unicode 6.0.

B.10.2 Issue 150: Review of Draft UTS #46: Unicode IDNA Compatible Preprocessing
B.10.1.1.1 General feedback [L2/09-385]
B.10.1.1.2 Concerns about the "szett" exception [Davis, L2/09-363]
B.10.11.2 Document for review [Davis, L2/09-390, L2/09-391]

Very long discussion.

Lunch break at 12:55. Back at 1:55.

B.1.1.2.3 Unicode liaison report from WG2 [Constable, L2/09-396]

Discussion.

B.1.1.3 IR's meeting report [Anderson, L2/09-394]

Discussion.

B.1.1.4 Consent docket [Whistler, L2/09-395]

[121-C7] Consensus: Change block name HISTORIC KANA to KANA SUPPLEMENT.

[121-C8] Consensus: Accept 12 new emoji characters as documented in L2/09-395 section B:
1F30D EARTH GLOBE EUROPE-AFRICA
1F30E EARTH GLOBE AMERICAS
1F310 GLOBE WITH MERIDIANS
1F42A DROMEDARY CAMEL
1F46C TWO MEN HOLDING HANDS
1F46D TWO WOMEN HOLDING HANDS
1F4B7 BANKNOTE WITH POUND SIGN
1F4EC OPEN MAILBOX WITH RAISED FLAG
1F4EA CLOSED MAILBOX WITH LOWERED FLAG
1F504 ANTICLOCKWISE DOWNWARDS AND UPWARDS OPEN CIRCLE ARROWS
1F629 FACE WITHOUT MOUTH
1F6C1 BATHTUB

[121-C9] Consensus: Accept 12 "half hour" clock face symbols documented in L2/09-395 section C:
1F55C CLOCK FACE ONE-THIRTY
... through ...
1F567 CLOCK FACE TWELVE-THIRTY

[121-C10] Consensus: Accept U+27BF DOUBLE CURLY LOOP for encoding in a future version of the standard and rescind approval of U+1F56F EMOJI COMPATIBILITY SYMBOL-16.

[121-C11] Consensus: Accept 26 regional indicator symbols for encoding in a future version of the standard: 1F1E6 REGIONAL INDICATOR SYMBOL LETTER A ... through ... 1F1FF REGIONAL INDICATOR SYMBOL LETTER Z and rescind approval of: 1F566 EMOJI COMPATIBILITY SYMBOL-6 through 1F56E EMOJI COMPATIBILITY SYMBOL-15.

[121-C12] Consensus: 66 squared, negative-circled, and negative-squared Latin letters or letter sequences in the Enclosed Alphanumeric Supplement block, as documented in L2/09-295, pages 41-43 for encoding in a future version of the standard. (= WG2 N3671)

[121-C13] Consensus: Accept U+26E7 INVERTED PENTAGRAM for encoding in a future version of the standard.

[121-C14] Consensus: Approve the removal of U+2B779 and the shifting up of the remaining characters in the block by one position.

[121-C15] Consensus: Approve 10 Devanagari characters for Kashmiri, for encoding in a future version of the standard:
093A DEVANAGARI VOWEL SIGN OE
093B DEVANAGARI VOWEL SIGN OOE
094F DEVANAGARI VOWEL SIGN AW
0956 DEVANAGARI VOWEL SIGN UE
0957 DEVANAGARI VOWEL SIGN UUE
0973 DEVANAGARI LETTER OE
0974 DEVANAGARI LETTER OOE
0975 DEVANAGARI LETTER AW
0976 DEVANAGARI LETTER UE
0977 DEVANAGARI LETTER UUE

[121-C16] Consensus: Accept the name changes to the emoji repertoire documented in L2/09-401.

[121-C17] Consensus: Accept name changes for four emoji characters as documented in L2/09-395, section N:
1F708 ALCHEMICAL SYMBOL FOR AQUA-VITAE to ALCHEMICAL SYMBOL FOR AQUA VITAE
1F709 ALCHEMICAL SYMBOL FOR AQUA-VITAE-2 to ALCHEMICAL SYMBOL FOR AQUA VITAE-2
1F715 ALCHEMICAL SYMBOL FOR NITER to ALCHEMICAL SYMBOL FOR NITRE
1F76C ALCHEMICAL SYMBOL FOR BATH OF VAPORS to ALCHEMICAL SYMBOL FOR BATH OF VAPOURS

[121-A16] Action Item for Deborah Anderson: In ballot comments on FPDAM 8, request to remove middle dot (section I) and two batak symbols (section K), and change 3 alchemical symbol names with the word "sulfur" in them (section N).

[121-C18] Consensus: Approve all code point and glyph changes for emoji repertoire as documented in L2/09-401 (WG2 N3723).

[121-C19] Consensus: Assign the 23 Meetei Mayek historic characters at AAE0..AAF6 and block MEETEI MAYEK EXTENSIONS with a range AAE0..AAFF for encoding in a future version of the standard.

[121-A17] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Update the pipeline with changes resulting from the WG2 consent docket decisions. See L2/09-395.

B.1.3.1 Resolutions of WG2 meeting 55 (WG2 N3704) [WG2, L2/09-407]

Oral report by Mike Ksar, and discussion.

Adjourned at 5:30


Day 3, Wednesday, November 4, 2009

Meeting opened at 9:39.

8 members represented: MS, UCB, Adobe, Apple, Google, Yahoo, IBM, Sun (proxy).

B.16 Recommended Unicode escaping mechanism [Davis, L2/09-348]

[121-C20] Consensus: Discuss alternative methods for escaping Unicode characters in UTS #18 and recommend the adoption of the Ruby style approach where feasible.

[121-A18] Action Item for Mark Davis, Editorial Committee: Issue a proposed update of UTS #18.

[121-A19] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Post a PRI for UTS #18 to close January 26, 2010.

B.7.1 Liaison report [Anderson, L2/09-381]

Brief discussion.

B.10.2 Issue 150: Review of Draft UTS #46: Unicode IDNA Compatible Preprocessing

Very long discussion.

[121-C21] Consensus: Modify document L2/09-390 in accordance with discussion, and have it reviewed by the editorial committee.

[121-A20] Action Item for Mark Davis, Editorial Committee: Update the revision 2 document of UTS #46 that is available for public review (PRI #150).

[121-A21] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Update the PRI #150 closing date to January 26, 2010, and add info about new draft and closing date update.

[121-A22] Action Item for Mark Davis, Editorial Committee: Update proposed draft UTS #46 and post.

[121-A23] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Thank Tom@bluesky for his feedback on UTS #46. See L2/09-385.

B.15 Improving the Unicode Standard usability [Davis, L2/09-361]

[121-A24] Action Item for Mark Davis, Eric Muller, Editorial Committee: Look at feasibility of providing finer grained stable links into sections of the book PDFs.

Lunch 1:00 - 2:00

B.14.1

Discussion of Action item 117-A13: Investigate putting together a list that identifies all CJK characters separated only by the source separation rule, for possible inclusion into the UCD. The action item was closed as a result of the discussion.

B.13.9 Property correction for U+A9B3 Javanese sign cecak telu [Whistler, L2/09-350]

[121-C22] Consensus: Make Other_Alphabetic = false for U+A9B3 JAVANESE SIGN CECAK TELU in a future version of the Unicode Standard.

[121-A25] Action Item for Mark Davis: Make Other_Alphabetic = false for U+A9B3 JAVANESE SIGN CECAK TELU in PropList.txt.

D.2.1 Proposal to Encode Mathematical Diagonals [Iancu, L2/09-397]

Laurentiu Iancu on the phone. Need to return to this discussion later, after investigating unification questions.

D.3.1 A Proposal to Revise a Part of Emoticons in PDAM 8 (WG2 N3711) [Ogata, L2/09-370]

[121-A26] Action Item for Peter Edberg: Get the emoji working group to review the proposed name changes in L2/09-370, taking into account the glyph changes in FPDAM 8.

B.9.2 Proposal for CLDR to specify preferred character sequences [Edberg, L2/09-264]

[121-A27] Action Item for Peter Edberg: Reformulate the proposal in L2/09-264 to separate locale-dependent (CLDR) from locale-independent issues which should be in the Unicode Standard.

B.13.4 Cased and Case_Ignorable not disjoint [Scherer, L2/09-355]

[121-A28] Action Item for Mark Davis, Markus Scherer, Editorial Committee: Clarify that the star operator used in the regex for Final_Sigma of Table 3-15 is "greedy" and that Cased and Case_Ignorable properties are not disjoint.

[121-A29] Action Item for Mark Davis, Editorial Committee: Update D136 to highlight that Case_Ignorable is a narrow-use property.

B.13.6 Ideographic Property [Davis, L2/09-357]

[121-A30] Action Item for Mark Davis, Editorial Committee: Add a clarification to UAX #44 that the Ideographic property does not apply to cuneiform or hieroglyphs.

B.13.7 Clarifying compatibility characters [Davis, L2/09-362]

Discussion. UTC took no action at this time.

C.4 Preliminary proposal to encode the Modi script [Pandey, L2/09-249]

Brief discussion.

C.9 Towards an encoding for the Maithili Script [Pandey/SEI, L2/09-329]

Discussion. Feedback via Deborah Anderson to Anshuman Pandey.

C.11 Proposal to encode the Samvat date sign for Arabic [Pandey, L2/09-144]

Discussion. Feedback via Deborah Anderson to Anshuman Pandey.

C.10 Proposal to encode Coptic Numerals [L2/09-163]

Discussion.

C.30.1 Encoding of Dot Reph of Malyalam and Change in glyph for Avagraha in Malyalam [Lata, L2/09-378]

[121-A31] Action Item for Deborah Anderson: Add to ballot comments on Amd 8 for dot-reph U+0D4E MALAYALAM LETTER DOT REPH, a request for the annotation "Not used in the reformed Malayalam orthography."

C.24 Proposal to Include Duployan Shorthands and Chinook Script in UCS [L2/09-364]

Discussion with Van Anderson on the phone.

Meeting adjourned for the day at 6:03.


Day 4, Thursday, November 5, 2009

Meeting opened at 10:35 after members meeting.

9 members present: MS, UCB, Adobe, Sun(proxy), Apple, Google, Sybase, IBM, Yahoo.

C.3 Grantha
C.3.1 Comment on L2/09-372 (Number of Viramas in closely related Malayalam and Grantha scripts) [Ganesan, L2/09-405]
C.3.2 Comments on Mr Ganesan's Grantha Proposal [Sharma, L2/09-316]
C.3.3 Proposal to encode the Grantha script [Sharma, L2/09-372]
C.3.4 Why jihvamuliya and upadhmaniya characters are not proposed for Grantha [Sharma, L2/09-373]
C.3.5 Request for encoding 11355 GRANTHA LENGTH MARK [Sharma, L2/09-374]
C.3.6 Further clarification on Grantha virama-ligatures [Sharma, L2/09-375]
C.3.7 Letter concerning Grantha Proposal [Lata, L2/09-380]
C.3.8 Proposal to encode the Grantha script [Ganesan, L2/09-345]

Discussion. Naga Ganesan on phone.

[121-A32] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Work with the proposers encoding Grantha to resolve the issues.

[121-A33] Action Item for Lisa Moore: Put Tamil Fractions onto the agenda for the next meeting:
C.29.1 Request for encoding Tamil major fractions [Sharma, L2/09-376]
C.29.2 Tamil fractions - Comment on L2/09-376 [Ganesan, L2/09-398]
C.29.3 Comment on L2/09-376 Tamil fractions [Dias, L2/09-416]

B.13.10 Deprecating properties [Davis, L2/09-296]

[121-C23] Consensus: Deprecate the FC_NFKC_Closure and Expands_On* properties, and document the stabilized and deprecated properties in UAX #44.

[121-A34] Action Item for Mark Davis: Change DerivedNormalizationProps.txt to reflect deprecation of the FC_NFKC_Closure and Expands_On* properties.

[121-A35] Action Item for Ken Whistler, Editorial Committee: Update and issue a proposed update of UAX #44, to document deprecation of the FC_NFKC_Closure and Expands_On* properties.

[121-C24] Consensus: Decisions to deprecate or stabilize a property, or to create a new property should have public review.

[121-A36] Action Item for Rick McGowan, Editorial Committee: Draft a background document on deprecating properties in L2/09-296 and post for public review, to close January 26, 2010.

[121-A37] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Post the PRI for proposed update of UAX #44 to close January 26, 2010.

D.2.1 Proposal to Encode Mathematical Diagonals [Iancu, L2/09-397]

Laurentiu Iancu, Barbara Beeton on phone.

[121-C25] Consensus: Accept U+27CB RISING DIAGONAL and U+27CD FALLING DIAGONAL for encoding in a future version of the standard. L2/09-397.

[121-A38] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Update the pipeline to include U+27CB RISING DIAGONAL and U+27CD FALLING DIAGONAL. See L2/09-397.

[121-A39] Action Item for Laurentiu Iancu, Rick McGowan, Murray Sargent: Update the proposal L2/09-397 with discussion of U+2571 and U+2572, and font implications for the charts. Forward to WG2 as a Unicode/SEI contribution.

[121-A40] Action Item for Laurentiu Iancu, Rick McGowan, Murray Sargent: Deliver a font for 2 new math characters U+27CB RISING DIAGONAL and U+27CD FALLING DIAGONAL.

[121-C26] Consensus: Issue a proposed update of UTR #25 that includes a discussion of the two new math operators U+27CB RISING DIAGONAL and U+27CD FALLING DIAGONAL and other diagonal characters.

[121-A41] Action Item for Murray Sargent, Editorial Committee: Update UTR #25 to discuss the math operators U+27CB RISING DIAGONAL and U+27CD FALLING DIAGONAL and other diagonal characters, and issue as a proposed update.

[121-A42] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Post PRI for UTR #25 proposed update, to close January 26, 2010.

[121-A43] Action Item for Ken Whistler, Editorial Committee: Document the implications of the two new math operators U+27CB RISING DIAGONAL and U+27CD FALLING DIAGONAL in a future version of the standard.

[121-A44] Action Item for Deborah Anderson: Add 2 new math operators U+27CB RISING DIAGONAL and U+27CD FALLING DIAGONAL to the document requesting new additions.

[121-A45] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Update the annotations for U+2571, U+2572, U+2573 in the names list. See L2/09-397.

[121-A46] Action Item for Mark Davis, Editorial Committee: Add the 2 new math characters U+27CB RISING DIAGONAL and U+27CD FALLING DIAGONAL to the confusables list in UTS #39, when they are approved.

B.13.11 Simplifying D131 [Davis, L2/09-297]

[121-C27] Consensus: Add a new definition D147 for a loose caseless match based on L2/09-297.

[121-A47] Action Item for Ken Whistler, Editorial Committee: Add the new definition D147 to a future version of the standard.

B.13.7 Clarifying compatibility characters [Davis, L2/09-362]

Long discussion.

Lunch 1:00 - 2:00

B.13.1.1 BN values [Davis, L2/09-313]

[121-C28] Consensus: Change the bidi class of U+070F SYRIAC ABBREVIATION MARK from BN to AL.

[121-A48] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Change the bidi class of U+070F SYRIAC ABBREVIATION MARK from BN to AL in UnicodeData.txt in Unicode 6.0.

[121-A49] Action Item for Mark Davis: Add a "red flag invariant test" for BN with the 6 exceptions 001C..001F and 17B4..17B5 added to the exception list.

B.13.1.2 Default values for Bidi_Mirroring_Glyph [Williams, L2/09-388]

[121-C29] Consensus: Change the BidiMirroring.txt and PropertyValueAliases.txt to document that the default value of Bidi_Mirroring_Glyph property is the codepoint itself, but that simply indicates that there is no appropriate character available.

[121-A50] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Update BidiMirroring.txt to document the default value of Bidi_Mirroring_Glyph..

[121-A51] Action Item for Mark Davis: Update PropertyValueAliases.txt to document the default value of Bidi_Mirroring_Glyph..

[121-A52] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Add a discussion of the interpretation of the Bidi_Mirroring_Glyph property to UAX #44.

B.13.1.3 BidiTest.txt improvements [Scherer, L2/09-354]

[121-C30] Consensus: Accept T2 from L2/09-354 for Unicode 6.0.

[121-A53] Action Item for Mark Davis: Update BidiText.txt removing the @Type lines for Unicode 6.0.

[121-A54] Action Item for Mark Davis, Editorial Committee: Consider the editorial feedback in L2/09-354.

[121-A55] Action Item for Markus Scherer: Produce a fleshed-out proposal for default options for paragraph direction in UAX #9, for consideration. To be circulated on bidi@unicode.org for comment.

[121-A56] Action Item for Roozbeh Pournader: Supply additional bizarre test cases for BidiTest.txt.

B.13.1.5 A proposal for HTML improvements for bidi [Lanin, L2/09-411]

Discussion. UTC took no action at this time.

B.1.4.4.1 Disposition of comments on SC2 N 4079 (ISO/IEC CD 10646, Information Technology - Universal Coded Character Set (UCS)) (WG2 N3716) [Suignard, L2/09-414]

Discussion and oral report from Michel Suignard. UTC took no action at this time.

C.31 Koranic L2/09-419

[121-C31] Consensus: Accept 4 new Arabic characters U+08F0 - U+08F3 for encoding in a future version of the standard, as documented in L2/09-419, in a new block Arabic-Extend-A range 08A0 - 08FF.
U+08F0 ARABIC OPEN FATHATAN
U+08F1 ARABIC OPEN DAMMATAN
U+08F2 ARABIC OPEN KASRATAN
U+08F3 ARABIC SMALL HIGH WAW

[121-A57] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Update the pipeline to include 4 new Arabic characters U+08F0 - U+08F3. See L2/09-419 and consensus 121-C31.

[121-A58] Action Item for Deborah Anderson: Add 4 new Arabic characters to the document requesting new additions to 10646. See consensus 121-C31.

[121-A59] Action Item for Roozbeh Pournader: Update L2/09-419 as a Unicode contribution.

[121-A60] Action Item for Roozbeh Pournader: Provide a font to the editors.

[121-A61] Action Item for Mark Davis: Add information from the "Consfusability" section in document L2/09-419 to confusability list in UTS #39.

C.11 Proposal to encode the Samvat date sign for Arabic [Pandey, L2/09-144]

[121-C32] Consensus: Encode U+0604 ARABIC SIGN SAMVAT with properties as documented in L2/09-144 and Bidi class = AN, in a future version of the standard.

[121-A62] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Update the pipeline to include U+0604 ARABIC SIGN SAMVAT. See L2/09-144 and consensus 121-C32.

[121-A63] Action Item for Deborah Anderson: Add U+0604 ARABIC SIGN SAMVAT to the document requesting new additions to 10646. See L2/09-144 and consensus 121-C32.

[121-A64] Action Item for Deborah Anderson: Forward L2/09-144 to WG2 as an SEI contribution.

[121-A65] Action Item for Deborah Anderson, Anshuman Pandey: Provide a font to the editors for U+0604 ARABIC SIGN SAMVAT.

C.27.3 Proposal to add one character in the Arabic block for representation of Kashmiri and annotation of existing characters [India NB, L2/09-406]

[121-A66] Action Item for Roozbeh Pournader, Deborah Anderson: Respond to the Government of India re L2/09-406 to clarify the use of Ye in Kashmiri.

[121-A67] Action Item for Roozbeh Pournader, Deborah Anderson: Discuss whether U+065A is the appropriate character for use in Kashmiri.

[121-A68] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Add Kashmiri to the annotation in the list of languages for U+06CC.

C.7.1 Proposal to encode additional short vowel characters for Devanagari [Pandey, L2/09-320]

[121-A69] Action Item for Deborah Anderson: Relay UTC feedback on L2/09-320 and get more input from Indic experts.

C.27.4 Comments on 'Consensus on Kashmiri additions for Devanagari' (N3727 L2/09-389) [Pandey, L2/09-403]

[121-A70] Action Item for Deborah Anderson: Respond to Anshuman Pandey with UTC feedback re L2/09-403.

Adjourned for the day at 5:37.


Day 5, Friday, November 6, 2009

Meeting opened at 9:30.

9 members represented. MS, Adobe, UCB, IBM, Apple, Google, Yahoo, Sun(proxy), Sybase.

B.2.3 TC37 Report [Constable]

Oral report on recent ISO developments.

[121-A71] Action Item for Peter Constable: Communicate the UTC concerns about registration process issues to TC37/SC2 regarding ISO 639.

[121-A72] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Communicate with TC46/SC2 regarding possible changes to the registration process for ISO 15924 code table in theISO concept database.

B.1.4.4 10646 CD B.1.4.4.1 Disposition of comments on SC2 N 4079 (ISO/IEC CD 10646, Information Technology - Universal Coded Character Set (UCS)) (WG2 N3716) [Suignard, L2/09-414]

[121-C33] Consensus: Approve a new release of UTR #45 that contains U-Source information for the compatibility characters in the range U+FA0C through U+FA2D.

[121-A73] Action Item for John Jenkins, Editorial Committee: Add source reference information for the U0 source for the compatibility characters in the range U+FA0C through U+FA2D, by the end of November 2009.

[121-A74] Action Item for Eric Muller: Ensure the alignment of CJK ideographic sources and source references between 10646 and Unicode 6.0.

[121-A75] Action Item for Deborah Anderson: Add to ballot comments on amendment 8 the issue that three CJK sources are being mixed together (G_GFZB).

[121-A76] Action Item for Deborah Anderson: Add to ballot comments on the FCD a request for a specific format for multi-column charts for CJK compatibility ideographs.

B.10.2 L2/09-390 UTR #46 Draft

Discussion.

Short break 10:40.

B.10.3  Public Review Feedback [L2/09-385]

[121-A77] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Fix the typo for Bilaliale in http://unicode.org/fr/charts/charindex.html .

[121-A78] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Forward the comment in L2/09-385 on French charts to Francois Yergeau and Patrick Andries.

[121-C34] Consensus: Change the derivation of \p{blank} property in UTS #18 to a simpler formulation. See Karl Williamson's feedback in L2/09-385.

[121-A79] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Reply to Karl Williamson to thank him for feedback on UTS #18; it will be under consideration for the next version.

[121-A80] Action Item for Mark Davis, Editorial Committee: Change the derivation of \p{blank} property in UTS #18 and issue a proposed update.

[121-A81] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Post the proposed update for UTS #18 for public review, to close January 26, 2010.

[121-A82] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Respond to Lorna Priest re annotation for U+A78B in code charts.

[121-A83] Action Item for Michel Suignard: Investigate inappropriate rendering of ASCII single and double quote marks in Unibook.

[121-A84] Action Item for Deborah Anderson: Follow up on Javanese comment in L2/09-385 from Budi Sayoga (ensure that our encoding is complete).

[121-A85] Action Item for Deborah Anderson, Editorial Committee: Add explanation of character ??? to Javanese block intro for Unicode 6.0.

[121-A86] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Close PRI #147. The char will be deprecated in Unicode 6.0 (when other chars are encoded).

B.12 Editorial Committee
B.12.1 Errata
B.12.2 Editorial Committee report [Whistler]
B.12.3 Unicode 5.2, 6.0

Oral report by Ken Whistler.

[121-A87] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Open a 6.0 data directory.

B.11.4.1 Default Ignorable code points in UCA [Davis, L2/09-353]

[121-C35] Consensus: Have soft-hyphen sort as ignorable (have zeros in primary, secondary, and tertiary levels) in UCA 6.0.

[121-A88] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Change soft-hyphen to have zeros in primary, secondary, and tertiary levels for UCA 6.0.

[121-A89] Action Item for Mark Davis: Communicate the change in collation of soft-hyphen to the CLDR TC.

[121-A90] Action Item for Deborah Anderson: Add this change in ballot comments on the draft of 14651.

B.11.4.2 Additional UCA Files [Davis, L2/09-360]

[121-C36] Consensus: Move Collationtest.html into UTS #10 for UCA 6.0.

[121-C37] Consensus: Add the non-log files from L2/09-360 to UCA 6.0 with a description of the format and use in a new section of UTS #10.

[121-C38] Consensus: Issue a proposed update of UTS #10 and create an public alpha UCA 6.0.0 folder.

[121-A91] Action Item for Mark Davis, Editorial Committee: Produce a proposed update of UTS #10.

[121-A92] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Post proposed update UTS #10 to close January 26, 2010.

[121-A93] Action Item for Ken Whistler, Editorial Committee: Fix the problems in UCA 5.2 release, CollationTest.html and associated test files.

[121-A94] Action Item for Mark Davis: Create a 6.0 UCA alpha directory containing copies of the 5.2.0 test and rules files with associated explanatory readme.

B.13.8 Maintaining a typology of Unicode characters [Whistler, L2/09-280]

[121-C39] Consensus: Authorize a proposed draft UTR classification information about all Unicode characters.

[121-C40] Consensus: Authorize a public review issue on proposed classification of Unicode characters based on document L2/09-280 and data in L2/09-421.

[121-A95] Action Item for Ken Whistler, Editorial Committee: Prepare the background doc.

[121-A96] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Post the PRI on proposed classification of Unicode characters to close January 26, 2010. See L2/09-280 .

Lunch 1:15 - 2:00

C.21 Proposed Changes to Runic Block U+16A0 [Deron, L2/09-312]

Discussion. There is consensus that most of the proposals are for a glyph-based disunification of the runes.

[121-A97] Action Item for Deborah Anderson, Chris Little: Follow up with author of L2/09-312R. There should be further investigation of the staveless runes.

C.26 Vedic and Sanskrit
C.26.1 Request for change of annotation of 0951 Devanagari Stress Sign Udatta [Sharma, L2/09-340]
C.26.2 Misrepresentation in Unicode of characters related to the Sanskrit sounds Jihvamuliya and Upadhmaniya [Sharma, L2/09-342]
C.26.3 Request for encoding 1CF3 ROTATED ARDHAVISARGA [Sharma, L2/09-343]
C.26.4 Request for encoding 1CF4 VEDIC TONE CANDRA ABOVE [Sharma, L2/09-344]
C.26.5 Vedic comments [Scharf, L2/09-404]

[121-A98] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Change the first annotation on 0951 to "mostly used for svarita with rare use for udatta" as suggested in L2/09-404.

C.30.2 Request for annotations to be added to Malayalam NNNA and TTTA [Sharma, L2/09-341]

[121-A99] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Reply to Sharma that UTC declined to add the annotations suggested in L2/09-341.

C.20 Proposal to Encode the Typikon Symbols in Unicode [Shardt, Andreev, L2/09-310]

[121-A100] Action Item for Deborah Anderson: Follow up with the author of L2/09-310. ((Suggest that A674 - A677 would be appropriate locations for these. Take a look at things in the 2600 block.))

UTC adjourned at 3:00.

L2 continues.

[121-A101] Action Item for Eric Muller: Research the changes in JTC1 procedure and communicate to the L2 membership.

L2 meeting adjourned at 3:40.


UTC Attendance

Person Representing E-mail Address
Deborah Anderson U C Berkeley dwanders@sonic.net
Peter Constable Microsoft petercon@microsoft.com
Craig Cummings Yahoo! crc@yahoo-inc.com
Mark Davis Google mark.davis@google.com
Peter Edberg Apple pedberg@apple.com
Mike Ksar WG2 mikeksar@10646.com
Chris Little LSA chrislit@berkeley.edu
Rick McGowan Unicode rick@unicode.org
Lisa Moore IBM lisam@us.ibm.com
Russ Nekorchuk self russneko@ufl.edu
Eric Muller Adobe emuller@adobe.com
Roozbeh Pournader Gnome roozbeh@htpassport.com
Alexey Proskuryakov Apple ap@apple.com
Murray Sargent Microsoft murrays@microsoft.com
Michel Suignard Unicode michel@suignard.com
Erik van der Poel Google erikv@google.com
Ken Whistler Sybase kenw@sybase.com
     
By Phone
Van Anderson self  
N. Ganesan self  
Mike McKenna    
Simon Montagu self smontagu@smontagu.org
Shawn Steele Microsoft  

Members Represented

Full Member

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11/3/09

11/4/09

11/5/09

11/6/09

1. Adobe Systems, Inc.

yes

yes

yes

yes

yes

2. Apple Computer, Inc.

yes

yes

yes

yes

yes

3. Denic e.G.

 

 

 

 

 

4. Google, Inc.

yes

yes

yes

yes

yes

5. IBM Corporation

yes

yes

yes

yes

yes

6. Microsoft Corporation

yes

yes

yes

yes

yes

7. Oracle Corporation

 

 

 

 

 

8. SAP AG

 

 

 

 

 

9. Sun Microsystems, Inc.

yes(proxy)

yes(proxy)

yes(proxy)

yes(proxy)

yes(proxy)

10. Sybase, Inc.

yes

yes

yes

yes

yes

11. Yahoo!

yes

yes

yes

yes

yes

 

 

 

 

 

 

Institutional Member

 

 

 

 

 

1. India, MIT

 

 

 

 

 

2. Tamil Nadu & TVU

 

 

 

 

 

3. W Bengal SNLTR

 

 

 

 

 

4. UCB

yes

yes

yes

yes

yes

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Supporting Member

 

 

 

 

 

1. Monotype Imaging Corp