L2/11-116

Pre-Preliminary Minutes of the UTC 127 / L2 224 Joint Meeting
San Jose, CA -- May 9-13, 2011
Hosted by Adobe

UTC #127 Agenda
Revision date: May 17, 2011


May 9, 2011

Meeting opened at 10:45

9 Full members; 8 in regular attendance 4 Institutional; 2 in regular attendance

7 members represented: Adobe, Apple, MS, IBM, UCB, Yahoo, SAP(proxy)

Eric Muller opened the joint meeting.

Added "C.23 Non-approval Notice of Hex Digits" to agenda.

Added UNGEGN meeting report - Ken Whistler.

Meeting schedule update. Added meeting: May 7-11 2012, Adobe.

Lisa: Reported on ULI-TC formation.

Membership update.

Action Item Review.

Short break 12:10-12:20

C.8 Documenting a fallback glyph for Tifinagh Consonant Joiner [Priest, Coblentz, L2/11-112]

[127-C1] Consensus: Update glyph for U+2D7F to show a dotted circle with 6 dots below within a dashed box.

[127-A1] Action item for Michael Everson: Provide a new glyph for U+2D7F to show a dotted circle with 6 dots below within a dashed box.

[127-A2] Action item for Rick McGowan, Editorial Committee: Post a glyph erratum for U+2D7F. See Consensus 127-C1.

[127-A3] Void - duplicates 127-A5.

[127-A4] Action item for Lorna Priest: Update L2/11-112 with revision to show the new glyph for U+2D7F, and forward to WG2.

[127-A5] Action item for Peter Constable: Add glyph change of U+2D7F to liaison report.

C.7 Sign Writing
C.7.1 Preliminary proposal for encoding the SignWriting script in the SMP (WG2 N4015) [Everson, L2/11-101]
C.7.2 Letter in support of SignWriting [Bickford, L2/11-174]

Long discussion. UTC took no action at this time.

C.2 Runic C.2.1 Revised proposal for encoding the Szekely-Hungarian Rovas script in the SMP (WG2 N4007) [Hungary NB, L2/11-087]
C.2.2 Proposal for encoding the Carpathian Basin Rovas script in the SMP (WG2 N4006) [Hungary NB, L2/11-088]
C.2.3 Proposal for encoding the Khazarian Rovas script in the SMP (WG2 N3999) [Hungary NB, L2/11-089]
C.2.4 Proposal to encode additional Runic characters (WG2 N4013) [Everson, West, L2/11-096]
C.2.5 Mapping between Hungarian Runic proposals in N3697 and N4007 (WG2 N4042) [Everson, L2/11-165]
C.2.6 Comparison of Hungarian Runic and Szekely-Hungarian Rovas proposals [Anderson, L2/11-177]

Long discussion. UTC took no action at this time.

Ad hoc meeting on Hungarian Runic set for Wednesday lunch.

C.2.4 Proposal to encode additional Runic characters (WG2 N4013) [Everson, West, L2/11-096]

Long discussion. UTC took no action at this time.

C.16 Proposal to encode "Teuthonista" phonetic characters (WG2 N4031) [Everson, L2/11-137]

Long discussion. UTC took no action at this time.

C.10 Second revised proposal for encoding the Manichaean script in the SMP (WG2 N4029) [Everson, L2/11-123]

[127-C2] Consensus: Accept the 51 Manichaean characters U+10AC0 - U+10AF6 as documented in L2/11-123, with block Manichaean U+10AC0 - U+10AFF; except the name change of Manichaean U+10AC8 to Manichaean Sign UD with general category So.

[127-A6] Action item for Ken Whistler: Add 51 Manichaean characters to pipeline. See Consensus 127-C2.

[127-A7] Action item for Deborah Anderson: Add 51 Manichaean characters to to document requesting new additions.

[127-A8] Action item for Michael Everson: Send a font and nameslist for Manichaean to Michel Suignard.

C.15.1 Proposal for the addition of four Latin characters (WG2 N4030) [Everson, L2/11-134]

Discussion. UTC took no action at this time.

C.5 Proposal to add heraldic hatching characters (WG2 N4011) [Everson, L2/11-094]

Discussion. UTC took no action at this time.

C.11 Phaistos Disc
C.11.1 Phaistos Disc glyph errata [Anderson, L2/11-126]
C.11.2 Response to L2/11-126 Phaistos Disc errata [Everson, L2/11-166]

[127-A9] Action item for Michael Everson: Send clarifying text on the directionality of the Phaistos Disc characters to the editorial committee.

C.28 Proposal for encoding the Psalter Pahlavi script in the SMP (WG2 N4040) [Everson, Pournader, L2/11-147]

Discussion. UTC took no action at this time.

C.9 Preliminary proposal for encoding the Tulu script in the SMP (WG2 N4025) [Everson, L2/11-120]

Discussion. UTC took no action at this time.

[127-A10] Action item for Deborah Anderson: Send pointer to the Tulu document to Gov't of India and ask for their feedback.

C.25 Preliminary proposal for encoding the Caucasian Albanian script (WG2 N4039) [Everson, L2/11-143]

Discussion. UTC took no action at this time.

Adjoined for the day 5:38.


May 10, 2011

Meeting opened at 9:50.

9 members represented: Adobe, MS, Yahoo, IBM, Google, SAP(proxy), UCB, Reardon, Apple

B.13.2 Reserving CCC values [Davis, L2/11-110]

[127-C3] Consensus: Request of the officers a stability policy that permanently reserves CCC value of 255.

[127-A11] Action item for Mark Davis: Request of the officers a stability policy that permanently reserves CCC value of 255.

[127-A12] Action item for Mark Davis, Editorial Committee: Add text to UAX #15 documenting the restriction on ccc=255 and techniques for reducing memory footprint, for version 6.1.

B.13.3 Proposal to change category of U+02D7 from Sk to Lm [Hosken, L2/11-113]

[127-C4] Consensus: Issue a PRI - currently a non-breaking hyphen is used to disallow line breaks; the question is whether it should also disallow word breaks.

[127-A13] Action item for Mark Davis, Editorial Committee: Draft a PRI - currently a non-breaking hyphen is used to disallow line breaks; the question is whether it should also disallow word breaks.

[127-A14] Action item for Rick McGowan: Post the PRI on non-breaking hyphen to close July 25, 2011. See Consensus 127-C4.

[127-A15] Action item for Rick McGowan: Respond to Martin Hosken re the above consensus 127-C4. See L2/11-113.

Short break.

C.6.1 Proposal to encode additional playing card characters (WG2 N4012) [Everson, Pentzlin, L2/11-095] C.6.2 Disunify Tarot cards [Davis, L2/11-102]

Discussion. UTC took no action at this time.

Lunch 12:00 - 1:00

B.13.4 Proposal to change grapheme extending properties of various characters [Hosken, L2/11-114]

[127-A16] Action item for Peter Edberg: Ask the CLDR committee to consider L2/11-114 and come up with any changes for UAX #29 and submit a document to UTC for the August 2011 meeting.

[127-A17] Action item for Rick McGowan: Respond to Martin Hosken re L2/11-114 with what is being done and point him to the communication from Peter Edberg. (See email of 5/10/2011 1:16pm from Peter Edberg.)

[127-M1] Motion: The 52 cards for playing cards do not represent the minor arcana.

Moved by Mark Davis, seconded by Rick McGowan

1 For (Google)
2 Against (Apple, Reardon)
6 Abstain (Yahoo, SAP, MS, Adobe, IBM, UCB)

Motion fails.

B.13.5 Proposal to update syntax for Unicode/UCS Sequence Identifiers (USI) in ISO/IEC 10646 [Whistler, L2/11-131]

[127-C5] Consensus: Approve the proposed update syntax for Unicode UCS Sequence Identifiers in L2/11-131 as a UTC liaison position to WG2.

[127-A18] Action item for Ken Whistler: Create a liaison position document for UCS Sequence Identifiers based on L2/11-131, and forward to WG2.

[127-A19] Action item for Peter Constable: Add information on above consensus 127-C5 to the UTC liaison report to WG2.

C.23 Non-approval notice for hex digits

[127-C6] Consensus: Document the prior decision to not encode hex digits on the non-approval page.

[127-A20] Action item for Ken Whistler: Add hex digits to the notices of non-approval.

C.17.2 Proposal to encode an Arabic letter mark (ALM) [Allouche, Mohie, L2/11-005]

Discusion. UTC took no action at this time.

B.10.1 Issue 177: Proposed Update UTS #46, Unicode IDNA Compatibility Processing

[127-A21] Action item for Rick McGowan: Extend PRI #177 to close July 25, 2011.

C.17.2 Proposal to encode an Arabic letter mark (ALM) [Allouche, Mohie, L2/11-005]
C.17.2.2 Embedding Level Mark

Discussion. UTC took no action at this time.

C.17.2.1 Proposal to encode an Arabic letter mark (ALM) [Allouche, Mohie, L2/11-005]

[127-A22] Action item for Roozbeh Pournader: Work with authors of L2/11-005 to document examples and to provide exact text changes or additions.

B.13.6 Bidi URL Display L2/11-150R2

Discussion. UTC took no action at this time.

B.11.1.1 CLDR Request for changes in DUCET [Davis, Edberg, L2/11-176]

Discussion. UTC took no action at this time.

B.11.2.1 Segmentation and Linebreak (AI 125-A099) [Edberg,et.al., L2/11-141]

Discussion. UTC took no action at this time.

[127-A23] Action item for Peter Edberg, Editorial Committee: Create text for a PRI on kinsoku issues based on section 6 of document L2/11-141R.

[127-A24] Action item for Rick McGowan: Post the PRI to close July 25, 2011.

Adjourned for the day at 6:00.


May 11, 2011

Meeting opened at 9:45.

7 members represented: Yahoo, MS, SAP(proxy) Adobe, IBM, UCB, Apple(proxy)

[127-C7] Consensus: Approve the minutes for UTC 112, 119-126.

C.26 Proposal to Encode Additional Old Italic Characters [Little, L2/11-146]

[127-C8] Consensus: Accept U+1031F OLD ITALIC LETTER ESS and U+1032F OLD ITALIC LETTER TTE for encoding in a future version of the standard, with the glyphs and properties as documented in L2/11-146.

[127-A25] Action item for Ken Whistler: Update the pipeline to include U+1031F OLD ITALIC LETTER ESS and U+1032F OLD ITALIC LETTER TTE. See L2/11-146.

[127-A26] Action item for Chris Little: Forward L2/11-146 to WG2.

[127-A27] Action item for Deborah Anderson: Add to the document requesting new additions.

[127-A28] Action item for Chris Little: Provide information to the editorial committee for updating section 14.2 Old Italic for Unicode 6.1. Include notes for an update to Figure 14-1.

[127-A29] Action item for Chris Little: Provide a font to Michel Suignard for the new Old Italic letters.

C.20 Duployan

[127-A30] Action item for Peter Constable: Add our request to add Duployan to a ballot to the Unicode liaison report to WG2.

C.29 Revised Proposal for Encoding Naxi Dongba Pictographic script (WG2 N4043) [China NB, L2/11-178]

[127-A31] Action item for Deborah Anderson: Write a response to L2/11-178, as discussed in the meeting.

C.22 Proposal to add Wingdings and Webdings symbols [SEI/Suignard, L2/11-149]

Long discussion.

Lunch 1:00 - 2:15, with ad hoc on Old Hungarian.

C.22 Proposal to add Wingdings and Webdings symbols [SEI/Suignard, L2/11-149] (cont'd)

[127-A32] Action item for Peter Constable: Support the addition of the revised webdings proposal to an amendment in WG2.

B.1.1.1 Convenor's report [Ksar]

Oral report by Mike Ksar. Meeting and agenda discussion.

Short break.

C.13 Metrical symbols
C.13.1 Proposal to encode Metrical Symbols and related characters (revised) [Schrage, Pentzlin, L2/10-358R]
C.13.2 Comments on L2/10-358R (N3913) Proposal to encode Metrical Symbols and related characters [Anderson, L2/11-128]

Discussion. UTC took no action at this time.

C.15.2 Revised proposal to add characters used in Lithuanian dialectology (replaces L2/10-357) [Pentzlin, L2/11-135]

Discussion. UTC took no action at this time. Ad hoc group will convene.

C.15.3 Proposal to encode Latin letters for the Slovene Metelko alphabet [Pentzlin, L2/11-136]

[127-A33] Action item for Rick McGowan: Respond to Karl Pentzlin re L2/11-136 that the UTC does not support the addition of these characters.

C.21.1 Proposal to add Variation Sequences for Latin and Cyrillic letters (replaces L2/10-280) [Pentzlin, L2/11-059]

Discussion. UTC took no action at this time.

Agenda management.

Meeting adjourned for the day at 5:34.


May 12, 2011

Meeting opened at 9:44.

6 members represented: Yahoo, SAP(proxy), MS, Adobe, IBM, UCB

Agenda management; new docs reported.

B.7.1 Liaison report [Anderson, L2/11-173]

Oral report by Deborah Anderson.

D.10 Grantha D.10.1 More views, opinions and suggestions as feedback on proposal of encoding Grantham [Logasundaram, L2/11-075]

[127-A34] Action item for Rick McGowan: Respond to Logasundaram to thank him for his feedback.

B.13.5.1 Proposal to update syntax for Unicode/UCS Sequence Identifiers (USI) in ISO/IEC 10646 [Whistler, L2/11-188]

Discussion. UTC took no action at this time.

B.10.3 Issue 181: Changing the General Category of Twelve Characters
B.10.3.1.1 General feedback [L2/11-154]
B.10.3.2 Document for review [UTC, L2/11-160]

Discussion. UTC took no action at this time.

B.1.3.2 Unconfirmed minutes of WG2 meeting 57, Busan, Korea [Umamaheswaran, L2/11-100]

Discussion. UTC took no action at this time.

B.14.2 Additions to Unihan needed for CLDR -- stroke counts (AI 126A-11) [Davis, et.al., L2/11-032]

Discussion. UTC took no action at this time.

Short break.

C.3 A proposal to correct/add/remove Kurdish Characters [Ghafour, L2/11-090]

[127-A35] Action item for Rick McGowan: Respond to Kurdish IT group on proposal in L2/11-090.

[127-A36] Action item for Rick McGowan: Contact Joe Becker re the Kurdish annotations in L2/11-090.

C.17.1 Proposal to encode Arabic characters used for Bashkir, Belarusian, Crimean Tatar, Karachay, Karakalpak, and Tatar languages [Yevlampiev, et al, L2/11-138]

Discussion. UTC took no action at this time.

C.17.3 Koranic overline [Pournader]

Discussion. UTC took no action at this time.

B.13.1 Changes to schematic names of Arabic letters [Pournader, L2/11-092]

[127-A37] Action item for Roozbeh Pournader: Investigate whether U+0678 Arabic Letter High Hamza Yeh should have a joining group of Farsi Yeh.

[127-A38] Action item for Roozbeh Pournader: Follow up with Thomas Milo on the position of dots under Feh.

D.6 Discussion of Mro Dandas [Hosken, L2/11-122]

[127-C9] Consensus: Accept U+16A6E MRO DANDA and U+16A6F MRO DOUBLE DANDA for encoding in a future version of the standard.

[127-A39] Action item for Ken Whistler: Update the pipeline to include U+16A6E MRO DANDA and U+16A6F MRO DOUBLE DANDA. See consensus 127-C9.

D.8 Proposal to add minority characters to Myanmar script [Hosken, L2/11-130]

Discussion. UTC took no action at this time.

D.3 Pau Cin Hau Alphabet (N4017) [Pandey, L2/11-104]

Discussion.

Lunch 12:45 - 1:45

[127-C10] Consensus: Accept the 57 Pau Cin Hau characters at 11AC0-11AF8 with block Pau Cin Hau 11AC0 - 11AFF, for encoding in a future version of the standard, with properties as given in L2/11-104.

[127-A40] Action item for Ken Whistler: Update the pipeline to include 57 Pau Cin Hau characters at 11AC0-11AF8. See Consensus 127-C10.

[127-A41] Action item for Deborah Anderson: Add to document requesting additions.

[127-A42] Action item for Deborah Anderson: Update the proposal with new code locations and forward to WG2.

[127-A43] Action item for Anshuman Pandey: Forward the font to Michel Suignard.

D.9 Proposal to Encode the Maithili Script [Pandey, L2/11-175]

[127-A44] Action item for Deborah Anderson: Ask Anshuman Pandey to change the script name from Maithili to Tirhuta, and include the decompositions for the multi-part vowels, and submit to UTC and WG2 a new document to replace L2/11-175.

[127-A45] Action item for Anshuman Pandey: Send Tirhuta font and updated nameslist file to Michel Suignard.

[127-A46] Action item for Peter Constable: Support the Tirhuta script in WG2.

D.13 Gangga Malayu L2/11-151

Discussion. UTC took no action at this time.

C.27 Revised Preliminary Proposal to Encode Soyombo (WG2 N4026) [Pandey, L2/11-125]

Discussion. UTC took no action at this time.

D.1 Review of Indic related L2 documents and recommendations to the UTC [Anderson,L2/11-139]

Discussion. UTC took no action at this time.

Short break.

C.17.1.1 L2/11-190 Pournader

[127-C11] Consensus: Accept 5 Arabic letters for encoding in a future version of the standard, with properties as given in L2/11-190; with glyphs and collation from L2/11-138:

08AD ARABIC LETTER LOW ALEF
08AE ARABIC LETTER DAL WITH THREE DOTS BELOW
08AF ARABIC LETTER SAD WITH THREE DOTS BELOW
08B0 ARABIC LETTER GAF WITH INVERTED STROKE
08B1 ARABIC LETTER STRAIGHT WAW

[127-A47] Action item for Ken Whistler: Update the pipeline to include 5 Arabic letters. See Consensus 127-C11.

[127-A48] Action item for Deborah Anderson: Add to document requesting additions.

[127-A49] Action item for Lorna Priest: Send font to Michel Suignard.

[127-A50] Action item for Rick McGowan: Respond to authors of L2/11-138 about 5 characters accepted; see also L2/11-190.

[127-A51] Action item for Ken Whistler, Editorial Committee: Update table 8-9 of TUS with new Arabic joining group "Straight Waw".

C.15.2.1 Lithuanian dialectology L2/11-189 Constable

[127-C12] Consensus: Accept 14 characters for Lithuanian dialectology, with properties as revised in L2/11-135 and updated in L2/11-189:

2B4E SHORT NORTH EAST ARROW
2B4F SHORT SOUTH EAST ARROW
2B5A NORTH EAST ARROW WITH HOOKED HEAD
2B5B SOUTH EAST ARROW WITH HOOKED TAIL
2B5C NORTH EAST ARROW WITH HORIZONTAL TAIL
2B5D SOUTH EAST ARROW WITH HORIZONTAL TAIL
2B5E BENT ARROW POINTING DOWNWARDS THEN NORTH EAST
2B5F SHORT BENT ARROW POINTING DOWNWARDS THEN NORTH EAST
2E3D VERTICAL SIX DOTS
2E3E WIGGLY VERTICAL LINE
A794 LATIN SMALL LETTER C WITH PALATAL HOOK
A795 LATIN SMALL LETTER H WITH PALATAL HOOK
A69C MODIFIER LETTER CYRILLIC HARD SIGN
A69D MODIFIER LETTER CYRILLIC SOFT SIGN

[127-A52] Action item for Ken Whistler: Update the pipeline to include 14 characters for Lithuanian dialectology. See L2/11-135, L2/11-189.

[127-A53] Action item for Deborah Anderson: Add to document requesting additions.

[127-A54] Action item for Michael Everson: Provide a font to Michel Suignard.

[127-A55] Action item for Rick McGowan: Respond to proposers of L2/11-135.

[127-A56] Action item for Peter Constable: Revise L2/11-189 and submit to WG2.

C.14 Addition of Bitcoin Sign [van Geloven, L2/11-129]

[127-A57] Action item for Rick McGowan: Respond to author of L2/11-129 that the use of the symbol in (running) text has not been demonstrated. There may also be IP issues because bitcoin.org is using the symbol as a logo.

C.19 Preliminary Proposal to Encode the Mongolian Square Script (WG2 N4041) [Pandey, L2/11-162]

Discussion. UTC took no action at this time.

C.30.1 Second Revised Proposal to encode characters for the English Phonotypic Alphabet (replaces L2/11-040) [Pentzlin, L2/11-153] C.30.2 Feedback [Cowan, L2/11-185]

Discussion. UTC took no action at this time.

C.12 Suggested Collation for Cyrillic O's (U+A698 - U+69B) from L2/10-394R [Anderson, L2/11-127]

Discussion. UTC took no action at this time.

C.18 Proposal to encode the Marchen script (WG2 N4032) [West, L2/11-140]

Discussion.

[127-A58] Action item for Rick McGowan: Follow up with Andrew West and Tibetan experts on Marchen and other related Tibetan scripts.

B.2.2.4.11 Ballot SC 35 N 1656 NP Principal Voice Commands part 4 [SC35, L2/11-172]

Discussion. UTC took no action at this time.


May 13, 2011

Meeting opened at 9:50.

8 members represented: Yahoo, SAP(proxy), MS, Adobe, IBM, UCB, Google, Apple

B.14.3 Preserving Variant Glyphs [Davis, L2/11-187]

[127-A59] Action item for Ken Lunde: Work with Japan NB representatives regarding the proposal in L2/11-187 not creating duplicate IVS registrations for these compatibility characters.

[127-A60] Action item for Lisa Moore: Put B.14.3 Preserving Variant Glyphs [Davis, L2/11-187] on the agenda for the next meeting.

B.11.1.1 CLDR Request for changes in DUCET [Davis, Edberg, L2/11-176]

[127-C13] Consensus: Update DUCET and UTS #10 to incorporate features of CLDR as listed in items 1-3 of L2/11-176R2 for UCA 6.1.

[127-A61] Action item for Ken Whistler, Mark Davis: Supply revised DUCET for 6.1.

[127-A62] Action item for Mark Davis, Editorial Committee: Update UTS #10 for 6.1. See L2/11-176R2.

[127-A63] Action item for Ken Whistler: Modify http://www.unicode.org/collation/ducet-changes.html to improve the discussion of when changes are allowed, by December 2011.

B.16 UNGEGN meeting report [Whistler]

Oral report by Ken Whistler.

B.3.4 Current Status of IVS Support in OSes & Applications [Lunde, L2/11-111]

[127-A64] Action item for Ken Lunde: Supply FAQ text based on L2/11-111.

B.10.3 Issue 181: Changing the General Category of Twelve Characters
B.10.3.1.1 General feedback [L2/11-154]
B.10.3.2 Document for review [UTC, L2/11-160]

[127-C14] Consensus: Change the general category of to U+00AA FEMININE ORDINAL INDICATOR and U+00BA MASCULINE ORDINAL INDICATOR "Lo" for Unicode 6.1.

[127-A65] Action item for Ken Whistler: Update UnicodeData.txt to change general category of to U+00AA FEMININE ORDINAL INDICATOR and U+00BA MASCULINE ORDINAL INDICATOR to "Lo" for Unicode 6.1.

[127-A66] Action item for Rick McGowan: Close PRI #181.

B.3.2 IVD Registration Group [Cook, Lunde, L2/11-107]

Discussion. UTC took no action at this time.

[127-A67] Action item for Richard Cook: Prepare a UTC document for WG2 that requests IRG to assist in the preparing IVD registrations.

B.3.1 IRG Liaison report [Jenkins, L2/11-121]

Discussion. UTC took no action at this time.

[127-A68] Action item for Rick McGowan, Editorial Committee: Note new editors of UTS #37. (Add Ken Lunde, John Jenkins, Richard Cook; Move Eric Muller, Hideki Hiura down into the Ack section, etc.)

[127-A69] Action item for Ken Lunde, Editorial Committee: Address the IRG's concerns with UTC registration in UTS #37.

[127-A70] Action item for Peter Constable: Add to the UTC/WG2 liaison report, the update of UTS #37 in response to IRG concerns, and include reference to the IVD proposal in L2/11-109.

[127-A71] Action item for Rick McGowan: Forward to WG2 the PU UTS #37 when ready, and inform Peter Constable when that happens.

[127-A72] Action item for John Jenkins: Send L2/11-109 to WG2.

B.14.1 Request for changes to the Unihan kRSUnicode field [West, L2/11-020]

[127-A73] Action item for John Jenkins: Update UAX #38 to say that the first value of the kRSUnicode field mirrors the normative radical stroke data from 10646.

[127-A74] Action item for John Jenkins: Verify that the first value of the kRSUnicode field does in fact mirror the normative radical stroke data from 10646.

Break for lunch 1:10 - 2:00

B.13.6.1 Tailoring the Unicode Bidi Algorithm [Sargent, L2/10-200]

On the phone: Laurentiu Iancu.

[127-C15] Consensus: Issue a PRI asking for feedback on whether or not the UBA should have an extension for formatting URLs, and if so what form should the extension take. Ask for real-life examples.

[127-A75] Action item for Mark Davis, Editorial Committee: Create text for a PRI on extending UBA for URLs.

[127-A76] Action item for Rick McGowan: Post the PRI on extending UBA for URLs to close July 25, 2011.

B.10.2.1.2 PRI179 feedback regarding case-insensitivity [Christiansen, L2/11-163]

[127-A77] Action item for Mark Davis: Engage with Tom Christiansen and other Perl community members to see how they address multi-character transform issues. See L2/11-163.

[127-A78] Action item for Rick McGowan: Find out who the best contacts in Perl organization are. Report to Mark Davis, et al. See L2/11-163.

[127-C16] Consensus: Modify the current proposed draft to add an open issue asking whether we should add primary UCA matching. Discuss the relationship with case-insensitive and accent-insensitive and NFKC matching.

[127-A79] Action item for Mark Davis: Update the proposed update of UTS #18.

[127-A80] Action item for Rick McGowan: Extend PRI #179 to July 25, and re-issue an announcement that we have extended it.

[127-A81] Action item for Rick McGowan: Add to the PRI/announcement checklist to always send an announcement when a PRI gets extended.

[127-A82] Action item for Lisa Moore: Add L2/11-142 and L2/11-154 to the agenda for the next meeting.

[127-A83] Action item for Rick McGowan: Extend PRI #177 and PRI #182 to July 25, 2011.

UTC meeting adjourned at 3:15. L2 meeting continued.


UTC Attendance

Person Representing E-mail Address
Deborah Anderson U C Berkeley dwanders@sonic.net
Peter Constable Microsoft petercon@microsoft.com
Craig Cummings Yahoo! crc@yahoo-inc.com
Mark Davis Google mark.davis@google.com
Peter Edberg Apple pedberg@apple.com
Mike Ksar WG2 mikeksar@10646.com
Chris Little LSA chrislit@berkeley.edu
Ken Lunde Adobe lunde@adobe.com
Rick McGowan Unicode rick@unicode.org
Lisa Moore IBM lisam@us.ibm.com
Eric Muller Adobe emuller@adobe.com
Roozbeh Pournader Gnome roozbeh@htpassport.com
Murray Sargent Microsoft murrays@microsoft.com
Michel Suignard Unicode michel@unicode.org
Tex Texin Xencraft textexin@xencraft.com
V. S. Umamaheswaran IBM umavs@ca.ibm.com
Ken Whistler Sybase kenw@sybase.com
     
By Phone
Michael Everson Evertype everson@evertype.com
Richard Cook self rscook@unicode.org
Naga Ganesan self naa.ganesan@gmail.com
Laurentiu Iancu Microsoft liancu@microsoft.com
John Jenkins Apple jenkins@apple.com
Shriramana Sharma self samjnaa@gmail.com

Members Represented

Full Member 05/09/11 05/10/11 05/11/11 05/12/11 05/13/11
1. Adobe Systems, Inc. yes yes yes yes yes
2. Apple Computer, Inc. yes yes yes yes yes
3. Google, Inc.   yes     yes
4. IBM Corporation yes yes yes yes yes
5. Microsoft Corporation yes yes yes yes yes
6. Oracle America, Inc.          
7. Rearden Commerce, Inc.   yes    yes yes
8. SAP AG yes(proxy) yes(proxy) yes(proxy) yes(proxy) yes(proxy)
9. Yahoo! yes yes yes yes yes
           
Institutional Member          
1. Bangladesh, MOSICT          
2. India, MIT          
3. UCB yes yes yes yes yes
4. W Bengal SNLTR          
           
Supporting Member
1. Monotype Imaging Corp