Re: Unicode CJK Language Myth

From: Martin J Duerst (
Date: Thu May 16 1996 - 05:06:06 EDT

Ken Whistler wrote:

>Mori-san has come up with an excellent example. For those of you following
>this discussion who may not be familiar with CJK fonts, the two glyphs
>in question appear roughly as follows. Sorry I can't show the fine points
>of corners and stroke terminations with a bunch of asterisks in an ASCII
>text file, but you should get the idea:

Just to make sure: None of the fine points that are not shown here
has any relevance for the identification of the character. They are
all just stilistic differences, dependent on the typeface choosen.

> * *
>************* *************
> * *
> ********* *********
> * * * *
> ********* *********
> * * versus * *
> ********* *********
> * * * * *
> ********* * *********
> * * *
>************** **************
>Both of these glyphs represent U+76F4. The glyph on the left is what
>is typically seen in a Chinese font. (The "zhi" in "yi-zhi" in Chinese.)
>The glyph on the right is *always* used in Japanese fonts -- at least
>in all examples I have seen. It is the "choku" in "choku-setsu". For
>those of you with JIS charts, this is JIS X 0208-1999 character 3630
>(Ward 36, Point 30).

Ward-Point is one of the translations for the Japanese Ku-Ten.
It is a literal translation. I much prefer the translation Row-Column,
e.g. used in Ken Lunde's book, which expresses more clearly what
these words denote. Another advantage of this translation is that
you can use the same words for other double-byte standards.
In case you make a litteral translation, you will get small confusing
differences for GB, KS, and so on.

>Thus, for example, when GB 13000.1-93 (the Chinese national standard
>corresponding to ISO/IEC 10646-1) is printed, U+76F4 is shown
>with the glyph on the left. When JIS X 0221-1995 (the Japanese national
>standard corresponding to ISO/IEC 10646-1) is printed, U+76F4 is
>shown with the glyph on the right.

I am not exactly sure anymore about GB 13000.1-93, but in
the case of JIS X 0221-1995, the tables from ISO/IEC 10646-1
were just copied. So JIS 221 contains not only the Japanese
variant of that glyph, but also the G (mainland China), T (Taiwan)
and K (Korean) variants, in four columns.

Regards, Martin.

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