RE: Hebrew: right and left holam

From: Jonathan Rosenne (rosenne@qsm.co.il)
Date: Thu Jun 03 1999 - 04:57:01 EDT


+AD4- -----Original Message-----
+AD4- From: Arno Schmitt +AFs-mailto:arno+AEA-zedat.fu-berlin.de+AF0-
+AD4- Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 1999 11:10 PM
+AD4- To: Unicode List
+AD4- Subject: Hebrew: right and left holam
+AD4-
+AD4-
+AD4- Jonathan Rosenne schrieb:
+AD4-
+AD4- +AD4APg- +ACI-right holem+ACI- and +ACI-left holem+ACI-
+AD4- +AD4- are both encoded as Holam. This is just a placement issue, which is a
+AD4- +AD4- matter of typography and not of encoding. If you want, you can
+AD4- look at it
+AD4- +AD4- as an automatic shaping for Hebrew.
+AD4-
+AD4- 1.) Do you tell us that (mi)tswot and (ma)tsot look the same?

Normally yes, some rare exact printings - probably only of the Old Testament - do show a difference.

+AD4- 2.) Do you tell us that the encoding of these totally different
+AD4- word are the same (with the exception of the +ACI-i+ACI- and the +ACI-a+ACI- after
+AD4- the first consonant)?

Yes.

+AD4- 3.) If the answer to 1.) is no,
+AD4- and to 2.) is is yes: how does the program find the right
+AD4- solution?

The program designer has this and other issues to resolve. He will not get the information from the coding.
+AD4-
+AD4-
+AD4- +AD4- +AD4-The left holam is
+AD4- +AD4- +AD4-a) written on the left of the letter, and
+AD4- +AD4- +AD4-b) informs the reader that the letter +AF8-on which it sits+AF8-
+AD4- +AD4- +AD4- is spoken with /o/:
+AD4- +AD4- +AD4-Bo'i (here and always the capital letter has the holam)
+AD4- +AD4-
+AD4- +AD4- The Holam is encoded after the Bet and is placed top left of it.
+AD4- +AD4-
+AD4- +AD4- +AD4-Aoax (+ACI-A+ACI- stands for alef - here silent)
+AD4- +AD4-
+AD4- +AD4- This seems to be Alef Vav Holam Het, the Holam is placed on the
+AD4- on the Vav,
+AD4- +AD4- this is called a Full Holam.
+AD4-
+AD4- No, no, the word is Alef, Left Holam, furtive Patah, Het
+AD4- And it's a left holam on the A (here and always the capital letter
+AD4- has the holam)

So you mean owl. +ACI-Furtive+ACI- is not a coding matter. So it is Alef, Holam, Het, Patah. And the Alef is not silent.

I do know that some rare +ACI-exact+ACI- printers place the furtive Patah a little to the right, but this is not reflected in the encoding.

+AD4- +AD4-
+AD4- +AD4- +AD4-Aotem ( +ACI- +ACI- +ACI- +ADs- with tet)
+AD4- +AD4-
+AD4- +AD4- This seems to be Alef Holam Tet Mem. The Holam is placed on the
+AD4- top left of
+AD4- +AD4- the Alef.
+AD4- +AD4-
+AD4- +AD4- +AD4-mitsWot
+AD4- +AD4- +AD4-caWon (+ACI-c+ACI- stands for ain)
+AD4- holam to left of waw
+AD4-
+AD4- +AD4- +AD4-SHomer
+AD4- holam to the left of shin
+AD4-
+AD4- +AD4- +AD4-Sone
+AD4- holam to the left of sin -- sin-dot and holam can merge

Do merge.

+AD4-
+AD4- +AD4- +AD4-maAos (with samex)
+AD4- holam on the left arm of alef
+AD4-
+AD4- +AD4- +AD4-
+AD4- +AD4- +AD4APg-The right holam is
+AD4- +AD4- +AD4-a) written on the right of the letter, and
+AD4- +AD4- +AD4-b) informs the reader that the +AF8-preceding+AF8- letter
+AD4- +AD4- +AD4- is spoken with /o/:
+AD4- +AD4- +AD4-roAsh
+AD4- +AD4-
+AD4- +AD4- This is Resh Holam Alef Shin, The Holam belongs to the Resh but
+AD4- is placed
+AD4- +AD4- on the right arm of the Alef.
+AD4-
+AD4- So, at least, there is not dispute on the existence of a right
+AD4- holam, and a left holam -- or is this still in dispute?

There is one Holam character, and it has complex placement rules.

+AD4-
+AD4- +AD4- +AD4-moSHe
+AD4- +AD4-
+AD4- +AD4- The Holam and The Shin Dot are merged - only one dot is placed
+AD4- on the right
+AD4- +AD4- of the Shin.
+AD4- +AD4-
+AD4- +AD4- +AD4-coSe
+AD4- +AD4- +AD4-yirpoS
+AD4- +AD4- +AD4-tsoAn
+AD4- +AD4- +AD4-
+AD4-

Jony



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