Re: Bad implementation of MIME for UTF-8 (or for anything else)?

From: Mark Davis (mark@macchiato.com)
Date: Wed Aug 18 1999 - 23:42:20 EDT


C'est vrai!

Mark

Alain wrote:

> Interesting info.
>
> Alain
> ____________________________________
> >To: Mark Davis <mark@macchiato.com>
> >Cc: alb@sct.gouv.qc.ca, Deborah Goldsmith <goldsmith@apple.com>
> >Subject: Re: UTF-7 not UNIX-safe... ?
> >X-Face:
> "b_m|CE6#'Q8fliQrwHl9K,]PA_o'*S~Dva{~b1n*)K*A(BIwQW.:LY?t4~xhYka_.LV?Qq
> >
> `}X|71X0ea&H]9Dsk!`kxBXlG;q$mLfv_vtaHK_rHFKu]4'<*LWCyUe@ZcI6"*wB5M@[m<Ok5/cC^=
> > CxDhg=TJi^o[E
> >From: François Pinard <pinard@iro.umontreal.ca>
> >Date: 18 Aug 1999 14:32:29 -0400
> >Lines: 26
> >User-Agent: Gnus/5.070095 (Pterodactyl Gnus v0.95) Emacs/20.4
> >X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by jupiter.rtsq.qc.ca
> id OAA18655
> >
> >François Pinard wrote:
> >
> >> Oops, Mark! The quote above uses UTF-8 (as well as the rest of the
> >> letter), while the full headers of your email, as received here, were:
> >> [...] that is, the contents was announced to be iso-8859-1. You will
> >> agree with me that the MIME headers should correctly describe the contents.
> >
> >Mark Davis <mark@macchiato.com> écrit:
> >
> >> I'm sorry; but I didn't encode it by hand ;-) Netscape communicator
> >> seems to have done it. I had switched to UTF-8 to view a particular
> >> (other) message, and it must have left it on (but not fixed the header).
>
> [François]
> >Just chatting! I'm sharing a very small bit of Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
> ><larsi@gnus.org>'s Pterodactyl Gnus effort, which is now implementing MIME.
> >Lars, with the help of many people, surveyed many known mail user agents,
> >to discover how badly they were implementing MIME, on average. He was
> >quite surprised, since the MIME standards are quite clear and readable about
> >what should be done, and following standards closely does produce good MIME
> >implementations. Lars concluded that implementors are just unable, or maybe
> >unwilling, to read standards. It seems many implementors invested their
> >work on a lot of fluff around a rather void MIME engine, so, missing the
> >bare basics. Being intelligent is a more humble act than looking clever :-)
> >
> >--
> >François Pinard http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/~pinard



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