Shavian (was: Re: Camion Code, new phonemic writing system)

From: Kenneth Whistler (
Date: Thu Aug 19 1999 - 16:28:41 EDT

Michael asked:

> >Unicode has, in fact, already approved two phonetic alphabets for the
> >writing of English as candidates for encoding on Plane 1: the Deseret
> >Alphabet and Shavian. The Deseret Alphabet is among the initial scripts
> >slated for inclusion of part 2 of ISO/IEC 10646.
> I don't think I was aware that Shavian had been approved. When did this
> happen?

May 29, 1997. Look at the website.
> In WG2 we processed Etruscan, Gothic, Deseret, Byzantine Musical
> Symbols, and Western Musical Symbols.

Shavian hasn't been pushed yet in WG2.

> >I don't think that there would be any objection per se to encoding the
> >Camion Code in Unicode if (a) a solid proposal as to how to do it were
> >available (with preferably an actual implementation behind it) and (b) one
> >could show that there are already people using it or who had used it at one
> >point. Formal encoding in Unicode as a means of encouraging its use would
> >be inappropriate IMHO.
> There's an argument about Shavian. It's famous, and is written about
> frequently -- but as far as I know only one book, Androcles and the Lion,
> was published in it. I know that the WG2 representative from Finland has
> misgivings about this.

One of the reasons why it hasn't been pushed.


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