Re: A basic question on encoding Latin characters

From: Mark E. Davis (
Date: Wed Sep 29 1999 - 11:24:59 EDT

I and others did, in earlier messages. "Dead keys" are specifically a reference to keyboard
order. Keyboarding was at issue in the discussion, started by Frank's message:

> In interactive telecommunications, we have the following situation:
> 1. Host sends "login:" (or any other prompt).
> 2. User is supposed to type her ID (or any other response).
> When using Unicode, the terminal emulator may not print the final character
> of the prompt because it doesn't know yet whether any combining characters
> will follow. So the user doesn't know whether the host is ready to receive
> a response and therefore should not reply since in some cases (e.g. at the
> UNIX "Password:" prompt) an early response is discarded.

At this point, I don't think this little eddy is worth continuing.


Robert Brady wrote:

> On Wed, 29 Sep 1999, Mark E. Davis wrote:
> > Excuse me: "Um, no" is hardly an answer.
> >
> > What I stated is the general definition of dead keys in the industry, combining character
> > *typed* before base. Keyboard order does not have to match 1-1 with storage order for
> > Unicode characters, which is set by the Unicode standard.
> >
> > Which words did you have trouble with?
> Who said anything about keyboard order? We are talking about the order
> that an app will see them in it's input stream : which is plain text (with
> a few ESC sequences thrown in).
> --
> Robert

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