I've been away from the Mac platform for awhile, so I won't comment on the
other issues, but I'm quite sure that your Munhwa is a Korean font, since
that's a romanization of the Korean word for culture but isn't a valid
romanization -- using any common system -- for either Mandarin or Japanese.
If the Chinese Language Kit is smart, and Apple's internationalization
products tend to be first rate, then it will resist some of your attempts to
use a Korean font to write Chinese.
I would suggest contacting Adobe Tech Support as your next step.
----- Original Message -----
From: gunnarb <email@example.com>
To: Unicode List <firstname.lastname@example.org>
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2000 1:32 PM
Subject: Chinese Font Management
> Good afternoon
> Please excuse me if this is the wrong list to be posting this on -- or
> better yet, let me know where I _should_ be posting.
> I am a PostScript support analyst for a niche publishing software design
> company. We're getting requests from Asian clients, so our software has
> to output Unicode/CID fonts in our PostScript documents. In the course
> of testing this, I've installed Mac OS 9 with the Chinese support
> package including the fonts Apple Li Sung Light, Beijing, Taipei and
> Song. For testing purposes I've also installed Munhwa (in all honesty,
> I'm not sure that's Chinese; it may be Korean), as well as the middle
> eastern fonts Geezah, MonotypeGurmukhi, GurmukhiMTS, ArialHebrew and
> Of the middle eastern fonts, only Geezah shows up in Illustrator 7, and
> none appear in the font menu in Illustrator 8. When I attempt to use
> Geezah, I get the message
> You won't be able to print with Geezah or stroke
> its characters because the font's outline file is
> missing or ATM is turned off.
> Of the Chinese fonts, all of them are visible in Illustrator 7 and 8,
> but only Apple LiSung Light is useable; the rest get the above error
> message. Curiously, if I choose Munhwa, it turns into Taipei.
> Quark Passport 4.1, conversely, recognizes the middle eastern fonts, but
> only Munhwa from the east Asian. It also indulges in some character
> substitution on the font menu, but if I print to file (embedding the
> fonts) and distill on Windows, most of the characters appear as expected
> (I don't know which of them aren't working, because I can't
> transliterate Quark's character substition).
> The font resources all seem to be the same for each of these fonts;
> there's a font suitcase (larger for the Asian ones of course) and a
> secondary resource for each of them, the only difference in the Apple
> CIDfonts being that LiSung Light's suitcase is 8.4 Mb and the other ones
> are less; Song is next at 6.4 Mb, while Beijing and Taipei are 1.5 Mb
> and 2.5 Mb respectively. Munhwa's suitcase is only 1.4 Mb, but its
> secondary is 4.4 Mb, so its resources are evidently split differently.
> Now, it's a good possibility my version of ATM is too old; it's version
> 4.5. But acting on a hunch, I checked the AdobeFnt.lst resource in
> System>Application Support>Adobe>Type Spt. There are some interesting
> differences. Apple LiSung Light appears to be much the same as the rest
> of my Type1 fonts, but the rest are all have missing or garbled
> FONDName:Apple LiSung Light
> FamilyName:Apple LiSung
> FullName:Apple LiSung Light
> FamilyNameNative:Apple LiSung Light
> FullNameNative:Apple LiSung Light
> FONDName:Apple LiSung Light
> Editing the AdobeFnt.lst is futile, of course; it appears to be written
> by the OS at startup, and no amount of fiddling will get it to change
> how Adobe applications recognize the font resources. On the other hand,
> if Apple's font resources are built properly, they shouldn't be getting
> "invalid" font types or character substitutions on the font infomation
> ... or am I kidding myself?
> Of course, in writing the PS directly (octals in the text string, etc.),
> the only Asian font that generates any kind of glyph in Illustrator is
> Apple LiSung Light. Maybe ... it's the only one that conforms with Adobe
> Technical Note #5014, the Adobe CMap and CIDFont Files Specification?
> Any ideas?
> Most respectfully,
> Gunnar Blodgett
> Production Analyst
> Pre Print, Inc.
> (780) 488-6688 x 7862
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