> This conflates two separate issues: tailoring for localization, and
handling
> multiple characters as single. Both are well handled by the collation TR.
Separating character set collation from localized collation is a technical
difference
the end users (remember those pesky creatures that always complain? :-)
couldn't possibly
care less. I agree on that the Unicode 'baseline collation' is a Very Good
Thing to
have, though.
> Note that collation is user-locale-specific, not language-specific:
> as an anglophone browsing a list of Swedish personal names, I want them
> collated in English order (ignore accents), not Swedish order.
A very good point.
-- Jarkko Hietaniemi <jarkko.hietaniemi@nokia.com>> -----Original Message----- > From: EXT John Cowan [mailto:jcowan@reutershealth.com] > Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2000 12:43 PM > To: jarkko.hietaniemi@nokia.com > Cc: Unicode List > Subject: Re: Linguistic precedence [was: (TC304.2313) AND/OR: > antediluvian > > > jarkko.hietaniemi@nokia.com wrote: > > > But believing that there is a collation order that works > across all the > > European (Latin script, let's not even go to Cyrillic and > Greek) languages > > is a very hopeless fallacy: > > Quite true. But there is a *default* collation that works > *fairly* well, > plus machinery for tailoring it to particular cases: see > http://www.unicode.org/unicode/reports/tr10/ > > Note that collation is user-locale-specific, not language-specific: > as an anglophone browsing a list of Swedish personal names, I > want them > collated in English order (ignore accents), not Swedish order. > > > the things conflicting are the 'accented' characters (like > > a-diaereses and o-diaereses in German versus in > Swedish/Finnish), and special > > 'ligature'-like cases like the 'll' and 'ch' of Spanish, > and pairs like v/w and > > i/j being sorted "to the same place", and so on. > > This conflates two separate issues: tailoring for > localization, and handling > multiple characters as single. Both are well handled by the > collation TR. > > -- > > Schlingt dreifach einen Kreis um dies! || John Cowan > <jcowan@reutershealth.com> > Schliesst euer Aug vor heiliger Schau, || http://www.reutershealth.com Denn er genoss vom Honig-Tau, || http://www.ccil.org/~cowan Und trank die Milch vom Paradies. -- Coleridge (tr. Politzer)
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