Re(2): Unicode keyboard editor utility

From: Flask Eric at MITTS (eric.flask@magnet.mt)
Date: Wed Jul 26 2000 - 03:04:00 EDT


For Maltese characters, having not Maltese keyboard driver, it is a requirement
I guess

Eric

Michael (michka) Kaplan (26/07/2000 01:25):
>I am not an MS employee, so I cannot speak for them. But here are my
>unofficial thoughts on it....
>
>The OS treats this like any device driver, as far as I can see. Its not the
>sort of thing that would be expected to be given out with the standard
>operating system. I mean, even adding a keyboard beyond your default is
>something that is uncommon, let alone wanting to create new keyboards or
>modify existing ones. This is not a common user requirement.
>
>michka
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Manuel Lopez" <malopez@email.msn.com>
>To: "Michael (michka) Kaplan" <michka@trigeminal.com>; "Magda Danish
>(Unicode)" <v-magdad@microsoft.com>; "Unicode List" <unicode@unicode.org>
>Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2000 5:34 PM
>Subject: Re: Unicode keyboard editor utility
>
>
>> Thanks for the reply. I don't anything about the work that would be
>required, but
>> all I'm suggesting is a utility either to create a custom keyboard file or
>to edit a
>> given keyboard file (not one to map a Unicode value on a key in all
>possible keyboard
>> layouts!). Is even this a major undertaking?
>>
>> So far, I've found exactly two programs that do that with Windows 2000 and
>Unicode,
>> one of them edits a given keyboard file, the other (in beta) creates a new
>keyboard
>> file, and both leave something to be desired.
>>
>> Edit existing keyboard:
>> http://solair.eunet.yu/~minya/Programs/klm/klm.html
>>
>> Creates one (still in beta, ver. 5 beta 2 will work in Win 2k ):
>> http://www.tavultesoft.com/keyman/
>>
>> p.s. I'm not sure why a utility like this is not included as part of the
>os, since I
>> expect the os maker already must have one.
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Michael (michka) Kaplan" <michka@trigeminal.com>
>> To: "Magda Danish (Unicode)" <v-magdad@microsoft.com>; "Unicode List"
>> <unicode@unicode.org>
>> Cc: "Manuel Lopez" <malopez@email.msn.com>
>> Sent: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 20:06
>> Subject: Re: Unicode keyboard editor utility
>>
>>
>> > I do not see a practical way to handle such a utility..... take (for
>> > example) Windows 2000, with its almost 100 keyboard layouts, each having
>1-8
>> > different physical mappings depending on the state of shift keys, etc.
>up at
>> >
>> > http://www.microsoft.com/globaldev/keyboards/keyboards.asp
>> >
>> > This means that there are probably several hundred keyboards that
>contain
>> > the Unicode character U+0041, for example. How can you have a simple
>mapping
>> > in an environment like that?
>> >
>> > michka
>> >
>> > Michael Kaplan
>> > Trigeminal Software, Inc.
>> > http://www.trigeminal.com/
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Magda Danish (Unicode)" <v-magdad@microsoft.com>
>> > To: "Unicode List" <unicode@unicode.org>
>> > Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2000 3:53 PM
>> > Subject: Unicode keyboard editor utility
>> >
>> >
>> > > Anyone knows about such a utility?
>> > >
>> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > From: Manuel Lopez [mailto:malopez@email.msn.com]
>> > > Sent: Sunday, July 16, 2000 9:22 PM
>> > > To: e0110@unicode.org; info@unicode.org
>> > > Subject: Minor issues
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > [....]
>> > >
>> > > A side comment:
>> > > I'm surprised that NT and Windows 2000, and every other Unicode OS, is
>> > > missing a
>> > > Unicode keyboard editor utility (and a utility to display keyboard
>> > mappings
>> > > to
>> > > Unicode values). There are only a couple of 3rd-party products and
>> > they're
>> > > not that
>> > > good, and this is actually a much easier program to write than word
>> > > processing (which
>> > > already exists).
>> > >
>> > > Keep up the good work,
>> > > Manuel Lopez
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>



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