Hi Addison,
Thanks for really descriptive and explanatory email.
It helped me a lot in grasping basics of Unicode and Internationalization.
I also got good link from the site you gave me. That is :-
http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.3/docs/guide/intl/intlTOC.doc.html
I got supported encoding from :-
http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.3/docs/guide/intl/encoding.doc.html
Unfortunately, not a single language from India is supported.
May be in future JDK versions i hope.
If i have any questions further, i will ask you.
Thanks!
Thanks and regards,
Vinit Bhatt
> -----Original Message-----
> From: addison@inter-locale.com [mailto:addison@inter-locale.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2000 6:49 PM
> To: Unicode List
> Cc: Unicode List
> Subject: RE: Question
>
>
> Hi Vinit,
>
> Actually, the Locale class is built into the Java language.
>
> Perhaps my previous message was unclear, but the tutorial you are looking
> for is called "Internationalization" and is located
> at: http://java.sun.com/docs/books/tutorial/i18n
>
> I'm curious about what it is that you're looking for, in terms of "classes
> on Unicode". Most people who ask about it mean "How can I display foreign
> (sic) language characters in my program?"
>
> Java, as I'm sure you're aware, uses a form of Unicode as its internal
> character set for Strings and characters. As a result, a variety of
> functions are "Unicode aware": for example, the Collator class has methods
> for "normalizing" strings in order to get a better sorting, which is based
> on the appropriate UTR (#15, if I remember correctly... I should look
> these things up).
>
> But you really cannot separate "Unicode support" in Java from "Locale
> support" and support for internationalization (features such as
> ResourceBundles for storing your externalized strings or the DateFormat
> class which lets you see appropriates formatted dates). You should make
> yourself familiar with these concepts first.
>
> The Unicode website has a lot of information specific to the Unicode
> Standard which will help you understand why Java is the way that it
> is. You will probably want to purchase your own copy of the Unicode
> Standard 3.0 if you really get into this stuff.
>
> Some caveats:
>
> If you are trying to do languages based on Devanagari or other Indic
> languages, support is skimpy in Java at this time. Support for Thai is
> sketchy.
>
> Some of the classes are incomplete or do not have in-built implementations
> for all cases that you will need. For example, the Calendar class doesn't
> have in-built support for non-Western calendars (like you'll find in
> the Arabic speaking world, Thailand, Japan, and so on) and the
> BreakIterator class really only handles text with spaces in it well.
>
> These kinds of things are being addressed in future JDKs, I'm told.
>
> I hope this helps. My website is new, so it's pretty skimpy on all of
> these topics (no doubt you saw the "under construction" banners). However,
> the Locale demo page is evolving pretty well (even today it's changed for
> the better), and soon it will include code snippets and links to Java
> documentation... and, if I have time over the weekend, I might even demo
> some of IBM's nifty classes from AlphaWorks.
>
> I hope this helps.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Addison
>
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>
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>
> On Tue, 1 Aug 2000, Vinit Bhatt wrote:
>
> > Hi Addison,
> >
> > Thanks for the information.
> >
> > I tried to look on your website to get more info. on Locale.
> > Is it a translator that you are developing ?
> >
> > I looked under www.javasoft.com , under tutorial link and could
> not find any
> > Unicode tutorial. Can you please guide me through a specific URL on
> > javasoft where
> > i can find the example classes templates on Unicode ? That
> will really help
> > in
> > coding my efforts. thanks a lot.
> >
> > Thanks and regards,
> > Vinit Bhatt
> > 703-344-6942
> >
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: addison@inter-locale.com [mailto:addison@inter-locale.com]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2000 1:16 PM
> > > To: Unicode List
> > > Cc: Unicode List
> > > Subject: Re: Question
> > >
> > >
> > > Well....
> > >
> > > A list of languages supported by Unicode is fairly long (and a complex
> > > topic).
> > >
> > > The Java programming language has varying levels of support
> for a variety
> > > of languages. This support is evolving, even as I write.
> > >
> > > For example:
> > > There is no (built-in) support for calendars other than the Gregorian
> > > calendar (although you can make your own and there are
> several available
> > > from IBM).
> > >
> > > The Sun JDK comes with a variety of locales (144 at my
> > > last count) pre-installed. Check out my Java Locale Viewer at:
> > >
> > http://www.inter-locale.com/demos/locales.jsp
> >
> > This demo shows many of the basic classes related to the Locale
> object in
> > use. I'm adding collation, normalization, the BreakIterator, and other
> > features sometime this week.
> >
> > Before you start with books, check out the Javasoft website. They have a
> > comprehensive Internationalization tutorial and several articles on the
> > basic classes you'll need to understand.
> >
> > Many books on Java have a chapter on internationalization,
> which is where
> > you'll mostly find reference to such matters as Unicode. There
> are also a
> > couple of books coming out shortly on the topic.
> >
> > ===========================================================
> > Addison P. Phillips Principal Consultant
> > Inter-Locale LLC http://www.inter-locale.com
> > Los Gatos, CA, USA mailto:addison@inter-locale.com
> >
> > +1 408.210.3569 (mobile) +1 408.904.4762 (fax)
> > ===========================================================
> > Globalization Engineering & Consulting Services
> >
> > On Tue, 1 Aug 2000, Vinit Bhatt wrote:
> >
> > > How do i get list of languages which are supported by Unicode
> in Java ?
> > >
> > > Also, what books you recommend to develop program in Java - Unicode ?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks and regards,
> > > Vinit Bhatt
> > > 703-344-6942
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
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