RE: do all browsers support UTF-8 encoding???

From: Carl W. Brown (cbrown@xnetinc.com)
Date: Thu Oct 05 2000 - 15:40:03 EDT


Michka

With classes you can specify a list of fonts and if that fails a font class.

With HTML font you an stuck with an all or nothing (usually nothing)
approach. You can specify fonts that are optimal then ones that likely to
be found on the different platforms that will work.

Carl

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael (michka) Kaplan [mailto:michka@trigeminal.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2000 10:14 AM
To: Unicode List
Subject: Re: do all browsers support UTF-8 encoding???

And of course, if you are explicitly setting fonts on the page in CSS, you
do not have to worry as much about people seeing the pages, anyway. I know
this is generally considered somewhat evil by some web designer types, but
you can put in several choices and reasonably hope to choose at least one
that they will have for Asian languages.

michka

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http://www.i18nWithVB.com/

----- Original Message -----
From: <addison@inter-locale.com>
To: "Unicode List" <unicode@unicode.org>
Cc: "Unicode List" <unicode@unicode.org>
Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2000 9:52 AM
Subject: Re: do all browsers support UTF-8 encoding???

> Hi Sandeep,
>
> Maybe this wasn't clear, but...
>
> IE 2,3,4.x and Netscape 2, 3, and 4.x will not display Chinese characters
> using the UTF-8 encoding as installed. They set the font for the UTF-8
> encoding to "Times New Roman" and therefore display black squares (the
> "empty glyph") for all Chinese characters.
>
> A lot of us think that you should not send UTF-8 to the browser if you are
> concerned about having large numbers of people with older browser versions
> (and cannot ensure that they all set the font to something more
> approprite, i.e. in a controlled environment such as an intranet). This
> appears to be your case.
>
> Short story:
>
> Work in Unicode (your choice, UTF-8 or UTF-16) at the server.
> Send UTF-8 to "modern" browsers (IE 5.x, NN 6.x).
> Send legacy encodings (such as Big5) to older browsers.
> Send UTF-8 to browsers serving languages that are compatible with UTF-8
> (Latin script languages in Western and Central Europe mostly).
>
> Regards,
>
> Addison
>
> ===========================================================
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>
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>
> On Wed, 4 Oct 2000, Sandeep Krishna wrote:
>
> > hi guys!!
> >
> > can someone tell me whether all browsers (atleast IE 2,3.0 and
Netscape...) support encoding/deocding on UTF-8....
> >
> > and also, can there be an instance of browser (say a primitave version
of a Chinese Netscape) that supports Big 5 encoding but not UTF-8.
> > THis info. is crucial as i expect all users (of the site) to be capable
of using only UTF-8 encoding.......
> > so if there is a user whose browser doesnt support UTF-8 or it supports
Big 5 but not UTF-8 then this is trouble..........
> >
> > anyone with some idea on this issue.......
> >
> > regards,
> >
> > Sandeep
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> >
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> >
>
>



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