Re: Iranian Rial sign proposal

From: Michael Everson (everson@egt.ie)
Date: Wed Apr 04 2001 - 15:05:21 EDT


At 23:27 +0430 2001-04-04, Roozbeh Pournader wrote:
>On Wed, 4 Apr 2001, Michael Everson wrote:
>
>> We are not adding characters to the presentation forms. It is likely
>> that the answer to this proposal will be "please use one-to-many
>> mapping".
>
>Would you please give me the reference?

The resolution was taken at the Beijing meeting of WG2.

>I once heard this, but after seeing a new proposal for "Arabic Tail
>Fragment" approved by UTC to be encoded in "Arabic Presentation
>Forms-B" block (SC2/WG2 document N2322), I thought I was wrong.

(I told the committee this would happen.)

The tail fragment was part of three rather old IBM code tables which
were all mapped into those nasty presentation forms, and this
particular glyph fragment was missing, and apparently this is causing
them problems for data conversion. That, I think, wouldn't be the
case for you, even if the character was used in a national character
set. It's easier to map a logical character set one-to-many and
many-to-one. The presentation-based model breaks because they're
taking fragments and sticking them together.

>We found our proposal to be stronger than that, the character was used in
>a national standard charset using a logical one letter to one character
>model, vs a presentation-based codepage like CP420 that can not round-trip
>even with the proposed character becuase of beasts in its positions 0x77,
>0x80, 0x8B, and 0x8D. We would not have bothered these many people...

I'm just saying what is LIKELY to be the reaction to such a proposal.
Now, if you consider it a lot more like the peseta or rupee currency
symbols, and showed a glyph that really didn't look like a word,
maybe. Can you do a discussion document with scans of price tags,
printed samples, and so on, showing its unity and narrowness?

>But at least there's a point in getting the proposal rejected. It will get
>into the pipeline document so future people won't waste their time...

Mmm.

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