Re: ἄνθρωπος

From: Mark Davis (mark@macchiato.com)
Date: Fri Aug 10 2001 - 14:07:27 EDT


I'm guessing it is because I was responding to Thomas, and Outlook Express HTML mail appears to default the font to Arial despite my having set Arial Unicode MS as the default font.

Mark
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  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Andy Heninger
  To: Unicode
  Sent: Friday, August 10, 2001 10:23
  Subject: Re: ἄνθρωπος

  I've been seeing one character in the Greek quote from Mark's signature displayed as a box also. Mail program is Outlook Express (IE6 beta) running on Windows 98

  Looking a bit closer, utf-8 encoded plain-text mails from Mark display the character correctly. I have set the font for this case to Arial Unicode MS; OE default was to use plain Arial

  Mark's original HTML mail had the font specified in the html like so
         <DIV><FONT size=3D2><FONT face=3DArial> ...
  and did not display the ἄ.

  this line has the font set to Arial Unicode MS ἄἄἄἄἄἄἄἄἄἄἄ
  this line has the font set to Arial ἄἄἄἄἄἄἄἄἄἄἄ
  (We'll see if it actually gets sent that way.)

  And OE completely trashes the Greek in the Subject field in its list of mail messages.

  Andy Heninger
  IBM, Cupertino, CA
  heninger@us.ibm.com

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Mark Davis
    To: Thomas Milo
    Cc: Unicode
    Sent: Friday, August 10, 2001 8:28 AM
    Subject: Re: ἄνθρωπος

    It all depends on the font you use in your emailer. I see it fine with Arial Unicode MS. The following is in NFKD*. Is it any better for you?

    πάντων μέτρον ἄνθρωπος — Πρωταγόρας

    Mark

    * BTW, we recently added normalizing transliterators ("Any-NFC", etc.), so it is easy to use our demo at http://oss.software.ibm.com/developerworks/opensource/icu/translitdemo to normalize examples.

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      ----- Original Message -----
      From: Thomas Milo
      To: Mark Davis
      Sent: Friday, August 10, 2001 07:02
      Subject: ἄνθρωπος

        Hi Mark,
        A red herring: your man - measure of all things - arrives mutilated.

        On my win2000 ie55 system the alpha-plus-spiritus lenis is replaced by a box.

        Regards,

        Tom



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