RE: [OT] o-circumflex

From: B (11@onna.com)
Date: Fri Sep 07 2001 - 00:15:18 EDT


Sorry about the kana. My mailer is Japanese.

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>> From: David Starner [mailto:dstarner98@aasaa.ofe.org]
>> Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 01:40 PM
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>> On Thu, Sep 06, 2001 at 04:03:07PM +0200, Thierry Sourbier wrote:
>> > The only little thing to know about French and diacritical
>> mark is that when
>> > doing a sort diacritical mark are evaluated from right to
>> left. (e.g.
>> > "cote" < "c$B%F%((Bte" < "cot$B%F%%(B" vs the English order "cote" <
>> "cot$B%F%%(B" < "c$B%F%((Bte" ).
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>> I'm not sure there is an established English sort order. It's not a
>> problem that comes up much in English.
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> I believe that there is an established sort order in English, which
>is to sort without regard to diacritics, or else we'd never find the words!
>In English (American English more than British English), diacritics are
>considered optional, and it is common to see "na$B%`MW(Be" written "naive", "San
>Jos$B%F%%(B" written "San Jose", etc. Especially amongst Americans, the two are
>considered equivalent, and I know of no word pair in all of English which is
>separated only by a diacritic.

I believe that the origin of the problem is the typewriter / word-processor. The English typewriter / word-processor is only designed to handle 26 letters (52 if you count case). Diacritics are impossible on a typewriter and very difficult on a word processor. In handwriting, the problem is non-existent.

Think of Tendou Kasumi getting the medical scholarship she always wanted, and getting to study abroad. She would likely e-mail her old friends / family in romaji, but snail-mail them in kana / kanji.

I like the freedom of a pen, so I can write kana and even draw.

As for your word pair:

1. To continue after a pause

2. Curriculum vitae

If only technology did not change the way we write like it does.

And why should not "o with accent" be considered as different from "o" as either is, say, from "u"? If that is the case:
"R" is "P with stroke"
(hiragana) "Ho" is "ha with stroke"
"Ru" is "Ro with loop"
(Thai) "five" is "four with loop"
and... my favorite... Latin "G" is "C" with stroke, and history WILL back me on that one!

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