Re: Ie abbreviation character

From: James E. Agenbroad (
Date: Tue Apr 30 2002 - 08:50:15 EDT

On Tue, 30 Apr 2002, Michael Everson wrote:

> At 11:55 +0200 2002-04-30, Lars Marius Garshol wrote:
> >* Stefan Persson
> >|
> >| Isn't the reversed lower-case "c" somewhere in the IPA block?
> >
> >Could be, but I need "reversed lower-case 'c' followed by colon" as a
> >single character.
> >
> >Also, I am very curious if this character is used (or even known)
> >outside Norway at all.
> It's a Latin abbreviation I imagine. It's found in older Irish texts
> where it represents "con".
> You aren't going to get this as a single character. We write i.e.
> with four characters, we write .i. (used in Ireland) with three
> characters; you can certainly write 9: with two characters.
> --
> Michael Everson *** Everson Typography ***
                                               Tuesday, April 30, 2002
U+0254 is an IPA chracter that looks like a "c" rotated 180 degrees. It's
name is latin small letter open O. Pullum and Ladusaw's Phonetic symbol
guide (page 117) call it "open O" and says it is Cardinal vowel
no.6: lower-mid back rounded ... the vowel sound of the Scottish English
pronounciation of "hot". In the section of Van Osterman's 1952 Manual of
foreign languages on the most common abbreviations used in Norwegian
commercial correspondence (page 181): "d.e. (det er), that is (i.e.)." So
at one time there was an alternative abbreviation for i.e.
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