RE: German 'ich' (was: Pronunciation of U+0429)

From: Vaintroub, Wladislav (
Date: Fri Aug 09 2002 - 11:00:41 EDT

Despite all the similarities in pronounciations of Russian U+0429 and German
"ich" ,
U+0429 seems to be very hard for pronounce Germans, who learn Russian (the
most complicated for Germans is I think U+042B, which most of them pronounce
like German "u").

(a Russian living in Berlin)

-----Original Message-----
From: David Possin []
Sent: Friday, August 09, 2002 2:17 PM
To: Otto Stolz; Rick Cameron
Subject: Re: German 'ich' (was: Pronunciation of U+0429)

I was thinking about Hessisch too, which is Frankfurt area and the
German Bundesland Hessen.
I think I can distinguish about 6 different dialects, each one has a
different pronunciation of 'ich'. If anybody is interested I can
organize a conference call offlist and we can listen to the various
sounds by phone. Compare it with the Berlin version ;-)

--- Otto Stolz <> wrote:
> Rick Cameron wrote:
> > At you can find
> > audiovisual samples for the consonants of the Russian alphabet. The
> entry
> > for U+0429 (which they write as D?') sure looks and sounds like an
> ich-laut
> > to me.
> Are you referring to the German standard pronounciation [A?],
> or have you, by any chance, heard this phoneme pronounced by
> a Hessian [Ef]? The latter would resemble the pronounciation of
> "N?" much more than the former (which is normally transliterated
> into Russian as "D3").
> Best wishes,
> Otto Stolz

Dave Possin
Globalization Consultant

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