From: Yung-Fong Tang (firstname.lastname@example.org)
Date: Fri Feb 28 2003 - 14:25:53 EST
I think you have both problem in 1 and 2
1. I think you use the wrong way to encode, you probably should encode
figure 2 by using
and figure 3 by using
2. I think there are also font problem. From my test, all the font ship
with MS windows does not work either way (the way you encode or the way
I encode) on IE or Mozilla. But I do see one font which I got from some
Arabic font developer show me U+0644-U+0654-U+0627 as figure 2 and
U+0644-U+0627-U+0654 as figure 3
I will send you a screenshot in private email. Don't want to send a big
jpg or png to the mailling list.
I need to find out who design that font I have in my hard drive... and
probably will let you know more details later.
Mete Kural wrote:
>I wanted to ask a question to those of you who have
>Unicode Arabic knowledge. We have this website
>http://www.quranreader.org where we are trying to
>display the text of the Quran with accurately encoded
>Unicode text rather than the traditional images. Some
>of the characters in the Quran aren't rendered
>correctly. We are letting the browser to use its
>default Unicode font on the website, which is Times
>New Roman Unicode for the newer versions of Internet
>Explorer I think. If we used a high-quality Unicode
>font for Arabic, would this solve the problem? Or is
>this a bigger problem that has to do with the
>rendering engine provided by the operating system?
>I would like to give you an example. In Arabic when
>you have a Lam And Alef together, it is rendered in a
>unique way instead of the regular rendering for these
>letters that kind of looks like this:
> \ /
>In the Quran, there is sometimes this combination of
>In such a case, the Lam and Alif are still rendered
>the way they would be had there not been a hamza
>inbetween, and the hamza is simply put above the alef
>and lam in the middle which looks kind of like this:
> \ /
>Note that this is different than the case as
>illustrated in Figure 3 where the hamza is directly
>above the alef and not "in between" lam and alef.
> \ /
>So there is a subtle difference that the hamza is not
>directly above the alef but rather in between the alef
>and the lam. I am attaching a small gif file named
>"Sample.gif" that will demostrate the subtle
>difference of the positioning of the hamza. Attached
>are two words from the Quran. Look for the second word
>where the hamza is in between the alef and the lam
>instead of directly above the alef.
>When we encode this case with this combination of
>Unicode characters: 0644-0627-0621
>in Internet Explorer, instead of showing it like
>Figure 2, it totally seperates all letters and shows
>it like this:
>| C \__/
>which is totally wrong.
>Which one do you think is the problem here?
>1) We are not encoding this combination of characters
>in the correct way.
>2) This is a font-related problem.
>3) This is a bigger problem for which the rendering
>engine on the operating system has to be modified.
>Thank you very very much,
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