Re: Not snazzy (was: New Unicode Savvy Logo)

From: John Cowan (
Date: Wed May 28 2003 - 12:49:34 EDT

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    Andrew C. West scripsit:

    > The OED says "Orig. Black & pidgin Eng. after Sp. sabe usted you know"

    The OED's etymology is almost certainly wrong in this case., as well
    as creolists generally, are quite firm in the Portuguese etymology, not
    (obviously) on formalist grounds, but because of the historical facts of
    both Atlantic and Pacific creole formation.

    > To me at least, it conjures up images of Tonto speaking to the Lone Ranger : "Me
    > no savvy, Kemo Sabe".

    You bet: that too is pidgin, and in fact "mi no savi" is perfectly
    grammatical Tok Pisin.

    But you, Wormtongue, you have done what you could for your true master.  Some
    reward you have earned at least.  Yet Saruman is apt to overlook his bargains.
    I should advise you to go quickly and remind him, lest he forget your faithful
    service.  --Gandalf             John Cowan <>

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