Re: Revised N2586R

From: Michael Everson (
Date: Tue Jun 24 2003 - 06:52:09 EDT

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    At 11:32 +0100 2003-06-24, William Overington wrote:

    >It appears to me that there should be some system devised so that
    >when a few extra symbols are accepted into an already established
    >area that those characters can be implemented in a proper manner
    >much more quickly than at present.

    No. The process we have works.

    >I am rather concerned that the name HANDICAPPED SIGN is being used
    >without any justification or discussion of the name of the character.

    The Name Police approved. ;-)

    >I am rather concerned about the Orwellian nightmare possibilities of this
    >and believe that vigilance is a necessary activity to protect freedom.

    Oh, spare us.

    >For example, would DISABILITY LOGO be a better name?

    No. It isn't a logo. Other names for the symbol are WHEELCHAIR SYMBOL
    (1790 Google hits), DISABLED SYMBOL (652 hits), HANDICAPPED SYMBOL
    (619 hits), HANDICAPPED SIGN (565 hits),DISABLED SYMBOL (276 hits),
    WHEELCHAIR SIGN (253 hits).

    Regarding the last, one may note with some alarm

    Likely WHEELCHAIR SYMBOL is a more accurate name.

    >Yet I feel that some discussion about the implications of encoding
    >this logo need to take place, particularly as the N2586R document
    >suggests as seemingly obvious the potential for use in databases.
    >For example, could the sign be made as not to be interchanged?

    Yes. Between the databases. For instance. Look, William, I' was
    saying that for instance, an Arizona number plate might be 643-KWH or
    it might be &-577E where the & stands for the wheelchair. I suggested
    that the Arizona Department of Motor Vehicles might wish to include
    this character in computer databases. It seemed to me that the use of
    the hyphen in the example was proof that the symbol could be used in

    which is different; it's called the TWO TICKS SYMBOL as well.

    >An Orwellian nightmare scenario of just encoding the symbols and "leaving it
    >to" people who use Unicode as to how they use the symbols is not attractive.

    Rein in those hares, William, please.

    Michael Everson * * Everson Typography *  *

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