Re: Combining diacriticals and Cyrillic

From: Andrew C. West (andrewcwest@alumni.princeton.edu)
Date: Fri Jul 11 2003 - 11:53:22 EDT

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    On Fri, 11 Jul 2003 13:15:14 +0200, "Philippe Verdy" wrote:

    > The Win32 Text APIs (such as TextOut) actually DO support UniScribe
    > transparently on Windows XP... In most applications, this means that the
    > UniScribe support works without requiring explicit calls to the Uniscribe API.

    Surely some mistake here.

    <quote src="MSDN">
    Starting with Microsoft Windows 2000, these functions [TextOut, ExtTextOut,
    TabbedTextOut, DrawText, and GetTextExtentExPoint] have been extended to support
    complex scripts. In general, this support is transparent to the application.
    </quote>

    <quote src="MSDN">
    The [Uniscribe] ScriptTextOut function takes the output of both ScriptShape and
    ScriptPlace calls and calls the operating system ExtTextOut function
    appropriately.
    </quote>

    Now if Uniscribe's ScriptTextOut function calls ExtTextOut, and according to
    Philippe ExtTextOut utilises Uniscribe to output text ...

    No, I don't think so. There is a big difference between "support complex
    scripts" (MSDN) and "support UniScribe" (Philippe). I don't know what the exact
    implementation of complex script support is for ExtTextOut etc., but I'm pretty
    sure that it is independant of Uniscribe. Maybe I'm wrong, but at least I'm not
    going to dress up a wild guess as a statement of certain fact as Philippe so
    likes to do (and it is disingenuous of him to pretend that we are all picking on
    him because his English is not good enough - there's nothing ambiguous about his
    misleading statements, and if he wants to repeat them in French they'll still be
    misleading or just plain wrong).

    Andrew



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