RE: Yerushala(y)im - or Biblical Hebrew

From: John Hudson (
Date: Thu Jul 24 2003 - 23:02:52 EDT

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    At 06:59 PM 7/24/2003, Kenneth Whistler wrote:

    >Fourth, even though CGJ itself has no displayable glyph,
    >and even though it does not serve as a format control for
    >neighboring characters the way ZWJ and ZWNJ do, it is
    >clear from John Hudson's discussion that it *does* affect
    >rendering in an indirect way. Failing to paint the CGJ results
    >in a problem of attachment points, and it also makes it
    >more difficult for a font maker to define the "ligatures"
    >in the font needed to get the expected results. Making
    >appropriate text display more difficult (or irresoluble)
    >for font designers *is* affecting the rendering.

    To be clear, my point was that CGJ *could* be used to affect rendering in
    an indirect way if it is guaranteed to be painted. I'm not sure that this
    translates into CGJ being the best solution for the Hebrew mark re-ordering
    issue. I'm bothered by the fact that the Combining Grapheme Joiner is being
    posed as a solution for something that is not really grapheme joining. It
    looks messy, and I can understand why it might appear a hack to Paul.

    John Hudson

    Tiro Typeworks
    Vancouver, BC

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