From: Philippe Verdy (verdy_p@wanadoo.fr)
Date: Thu Nov 20 2003 - 17:59:32 EST
Anto'nio Martins-Tuva'lkin wrote:
> But it is not an ISP (Internet Service Provider), just an internet café
> (a place where you have terminals connected to the web where you can
> surf for a fee and optionally drink coffee at the same time -- no sugar
> to keep the keeboards unsticky...). They should call these web cafés
> really.
>
> Greatest idea for a sign or logo of such a place where you *cannot*
> access your IMAP or POP3 account: U+0040 U+20E0 ;-)
That's OK and explicit. But such a combining mark for symbols generally
means "forbidden" rather than "not available". It's exactly like if the
webcafe was saying: do what you want on Internet but don't send any email,
not because I don't have support for them and you won't have mailboxes here,
but because it does not want to be the IP source of a message posted from a
online webmail service (like Hotmail).
With the same idea: <U+0040,U+20E6> AT SIGN WITH COMBINING DOUBLE VERTICAL
STROKE OVERLAY.
This one keeps the association with currency symbols (the double stroke):
users that wish a mailbox at the webcafe can subscribe with an additional
fee... I think that it's a much better idea of what a webcafe should do for
its clients, with also providing also anti-virus and anti-spam filters for
those hosted mailboxes, which will be kept available as long as the
subscription to the webcafe is valid...
This webcafe could also offer IMAP and POP3 access to these subscribed
mailboxes from remote sites, and could also resell these mailboxes online,
as well as offering a printed mailbox for its physical visitors or fax
redirection service or SMS notifications via GSM for messages from selected
sources or subject keywords. With such a service, the one-character logo
would be the AT sign with a PLUS sign overlay.
> Kenneth Whistler wrote:
>
> > Of course, you could also suggest to your friend U+02AC with a
> > "double-u" above: <02AC, 0367, 0367>
Kenneth means here: LATIN LETTER BIDENTAL PERCUSSIVE, with SMALL LETTER U
and SMALL LETTER U, where the diacritic letters would normaly stack on top
of each other, above the two stacked LATIN SMALL W letters which represent
the IPA bidental sound.
I really don't like this bidental percussive sound. Thanks for my teeth
(ooch!), my language does not use it! I'm just curious to know which
language needs it for IPA, and how people really pronounce it without
breaking their teeth or biting their tongue by accident... My mother has
always tought to me during my childhood not to do it even if it was fun...
> Or perhaps U+0040 U+036E U+036E...
You mean AT SIGN with SMALL LETTER V and SMALL LETTER V, same remark. The
effect would be like a pretty chevron sign pointing down above the arobace
(See how Latin accents are stacked for example in Vietnamese). But I doubt
it would mean "web only, no mail".
> Or, even better, U+0040 U+030B U+030F... ;-)
You mean AT SIGN WITH DOUBLE ACCUTE AND DOUBLE GRAVE ACCENT, same remark.
The effect would be like a pretty chevron above the arobace, except that it
would point to the left.
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