Re: MS Windows and Unicode 4.0 ?

From: Christopher John Fynn (cfynn@gmx.net)
Date: Tue Dec 02 2003 - 21:21:40 EST

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    This may be the fault of the application not Windows. Many Windows applications
    do not take advantage of the support for Unicode, OpenType layout, and font
    linking which is present in Windows 2000 & XP.

    It's plain silly to expect support for every Unicode character to be present on
    every platform and in every application "right out of the box" soon after
    characters are officially encoded in the Unicode Standard, especially
    characters for scripts have complex rendering requirements. Fonts for some
    scripts can take a long time to make properly, and then they have to be tested.
    Layout engines may need updating and these have to be thoroughly tested too.
    Then applications need to be updated to handle proper line breaking, word
    selection and so on.

    Things like math formulas may and music notation have their own special layout
    requirements - there is not much point of simply producing a font with "basic"
    glyphs for the characters if they cannot be rendered properly in formulas or
    music notation.

    - Chris

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Arcane Jill
    To: unicode@unicode.org
    Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 5:07 PM
    Subject: RE: MS Windows and Unicode 4.0 ?

    You misunderstand me. Whilst I have no objection to paying for ADDED value, I'm
    talking about what comes built in, out of the box.

    Consider the literary equivalent. Suppose I went to a library and borrowed a
    book, took it home, and attempted to read it (the real world equivalent of
    viewing a web page). Suppose then, that instead of readable characters, a
    critical math formula was printed as a series of "unsupported character"
    glyphs, and that subsequent exploration revealed that the book could only be
    read if I, the reader (not the publisher), were to pay money to the font
    designer. I would feel (rightly, I think) aggrieved.

    You see, I'm not talking about "good" fonts, just "basic" fonts. In fact, any
    fonts. Essentially, I expect every character to display, albeit poorly, but to
    display. I expect the operating system to provide a fallback font for every
    character. The Macintosh does exactly this. Windows doesn't. That's all.

    Jill



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