Re: [Flags] vexillologic symbols (was: UNICEF flag)

From: Philippe Verdy (
Date: Fri Apr 02 2004 - 08:55:02 EST

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    Probably sent to the wrong list.
    May be you intended to send this to the FOTW discussion list?

    OK. Then you may be interested in this related icons collection (not a
    vexicollogic one) made for use in tables (because they line up with the same
    small size) or as small annotations on web pages:

    Other colllections do exist but they are generally not royaltee-free as mine
    which I licenced with the Lesser GPL (after I received a warning from a software
    company which wanted me to pay them for such small icons; so I had to redesign
    them in a complete collection for my own use in relation with IANA and ISO3166-1
    codes or ccTLD and RIR public databases)...

    They are all using a common 28x16 format which best fits with various flags
    propertions, and still allows representing the graphic details in a easily
    recognized designs, and with a minimum of colors of the "standard web palette"
    made of 6 standard shades of R,G,B components.

    Also these small icons are all optimized to use a 16-index palette, sometimes a
    4-index or 2-index palette, and they are almost all under 200 bytes (all extra
    headers removed). The smallest one is for the unicolor Lybian flag (97 bytes),
    and the largest one is for San Marino (220 bytes), the Macedonian one being just
    after because it needs more shades of red and orange to correcly render the sun
    rays. The average size is around 140 to 160 bytes per flag.

    I have other special icons with even lower heights, but they are less complete
    than this collection (which I also have in PNG format, however they are bit
    larger than in GIF format), or they are derived from them by including an
    internal border (the above collection has no internal borders).

    But more insteresting, and related to Unicode, would be the vexillological
    symbols, which may be viewed as characters (they are simple glyphs with no color
    and basic strokes). The FIAV Information Systems collection indicates the flag
    "normative" status and presentation, the 64 dotted grid symbols indicate general
    usage of the flag:
    The 64-dotted grids could have other applications than just vexillological
    studies... They are remarkably similar to 6-dot Braille patterns, except that
    are disposed horizontally in two rows instead of two columns, and that the grid
    is visible.

    Note: if this above link (in UK) is too slow or does not work, you may try one
    of the other mirrors of the FOTW web site, which is quite popular on the web,
    but has to support heavy bandwidth usage due to the large collection of
    high-quality images (which are shown on the FOTW sites with the dotted-grid
    symbol that links to the page above.

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Anto'nio Martins-Tuva'lkin" <>
    To: <>
    Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 1:02 PM
    Subject: Re: [Flags] UNICEF flag

    > On 2004.04.01, 18:04, Zach Harden <> wrote:
    > > The flag background is the same as the UN, and the proportions seen
    > > in this photo is 1:2.
    > At FotW-ws on page <unicef.html>.
    > > The logo, in white, can be seen at
    > It seems that Sammy Kanady's got it well enough (except perhaps for
    > the double border from 4 to 12 o'clock?), but IMO the color should
    > match the one shown on our page <uno.html>.
    > -- ____.
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