Re: [META] Should there be a separate public list for CLDR?

From: Mark Davis (
Date: Tue Apr 27 2004 - 16:21:35 EDT

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    We have added a new section to the CLDR process document to try to clarify how
    the public can interact with the project. See

    In practice, I don't think there will be a problem with participation, as we've
    discussed before; one of the reasons that we moved CLDR from OpenI18N to Unicode
    was that we believe it will enable more interaction by a variety of people and
    organizations. As to the costs and benefits of joining Unicode, people can see
    them on:

    ► शिष्यादिच्छेत्पराजयम् ◄

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Michael (michka) Kaplan" <>
    To: <>
    Sent: Mon, 2004 Apr 26 09:10
    Subject: Re: [META] Should there be a separate public list for CLDR?

    > From: "Mark Davis (by way of Michael Everson)" <>
    > > There seems to be some misapprehension here. The
    > > list is for
    > > anyone to say anything vaguely related to unicode, for which cldr
    > qualifies as
    > > much as collation, keyboards, and beer measurements, all of which have
    > been
    > > discussed there by various people. We do not restrict the content of the
    > list.
    > > And the signal to noise ratio is very low; just take a moment to look
    > yourself
    > > at the topics discussed. I have no desire to have
    > > yet another list with the same
    > > characteristics.
    > >
    > > Any serious discussion of practical issues relating to the development of
    > CLDR
    > > will be taking place on, which IS a separate list.
    > It is my understanding that this is a closed list. Perhaps the officers (and
    > IBM!) need to have a full and frank discussion on the public perception of
    > moving something out of open18n and into a place that requires a *minimum*
    > $2000 cover charge for the right to have "serious discussion".
    > I have no stake in this either way (worst case would just have me quit
    > because I am tired of the stuff that feels offtopic to
    > me, which may not be such a bad thing). But what this does to the reputation
    > of Unicode itself (and perception of it) will be an interesting item to
    > watch over the next year or so....
    > Just a cat among the pigeons (though I am not the feline placer in this
    > case),
    > MichKa

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