Re: Script Continuums (Was: Re: Greek glyphs)

From: Dean Snyder (
Date: Wed Mar 02 2005 - 07:45:15 CST

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    >> it had everything to do
    >> with enabling cuneiform text processing and interchange in mixed script
    >> systems text.
    >Which of course means you could just use Latin transliteration, except when
    >you need to discuss a photograph of some noteworthy sample. As your
    field has,
    >I believe, always previously done.

    I challenge you, or anyone, to programmatically isolate cuneiform in
    plain text text streams when it is transliterated; but this is trivial to
    do if it is encoded.

    >You, and perhaps every single other user of Sumeric cuneiform, may choose to
    >deal only in one standardized script. This may or may not be ideal for some
    >divergent documents. I will leave it to the individual workers in
    cuneiform to
    >determine how they wish to deal with this subject in their own studies.

    I, for one, do indeed plan on using period-specific glyphs in Unicode
    cuneiform (when they become available - right now we have only UR III and
    Neo-Assyrian glyphs), but this will be rightfully relegated to the
    variable font level, i.e., above the plain text level.

    >I find it highly odd -- and unacceptable -- for you to actually (if you read
    >the words you wrote) forbid Greek users from displaying anything but standard
    >Greek script in HTML.

    I have never forbidden glyphic variation in HTML to Greek users, or to
    any other users. I also work in Greek, including archaic Greek, but when
    I feel the need for glyphic variation I change fonts, a triviality for
    HTML. (Note that I am making no statement here about whether or not
    archaic Greek should be encoded separately from later Greek. This
    SPECIFIC encoding issue, as opposed to your GENERAL suggestion, is
    associated with a combination of variabilities in character repertoire,
    glyph shape, writing direction, and character stance, and not just with
    glyph shape alone.)


    Dean A. Snyder

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    Whiting School of Engineering
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