RE: CLDR 1.4

From: Keutgen, Walter (walter.keutgen@be.unisys.com)
Date: Wed Mar 22 2006 - 13:43:33 CST

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    Mark, Philippe, Steven,

    it happens indeed to be a bug in the survey tool. I am going to fill a bug report.

    The tool puts the changes proposed to 'CUR' into 'CUR/displayName'. Corrections intended to clear the error messages stay hence hidden or misunderstood if one sorts by 'Priority'.

    Moreover, the examples next to 'CUR/displayName' refer to another currency e.g. 'SEK' in the example for 'ESA' in the German locale.

    Best regards

    Walter

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    -----Original Message-----
    From: unicode-bounce@unicode.org [mailto:unicode-bounce@unicode.org] On Behalf Of Keutgen, Walter
    Sent: Mittwoch, den 22. März 2006 16:51
    To: Mark Davis; Philippe Verdy
    Cc: unicode@unicode.org
    Subject: RE: CLDR 1.4

    Mark,

    slight mistake in my e-mail. Please read "'displayName'still absent for AFN" in 3rd sentence. Also choose a monospaced font for reading the e-mail.

    Walter

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    -----Original Message-----
    From: unicode-bounce@unicode.org [mailto:unicode-bounce@unicode.org] On Behalf Of Keutgen, Walter
    Sent: mercredi, le 22 mars 2006 11:57
    To: Mark Davis; Philippe Verdy
    Cc: unicode@unicode.org
    Subject: RE: CLDR 1.4

    Mark,

    thank you, your answer allows to proceed.

    There seems a slight inconsistency in the tool.

    3 cases are (and were) possible, now all 3 present for currency AFA, 'symbol' still absent for AFN:

    'CUR', 'CUR/symbol' and 'CUR/displayName'. See Afghani (with all buttons and messages) pasted from tool and edited to have the same appearance in flat text:

    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >AFA Afghani (1927-2002) >
    > remove o confirm o Afghani Error: Can't have same translation as [AFN] (Help) >
    > abstain o change to o Ref:>
    >AFA/displayName >
    > remove o confirm proposed-u45-1 o Afghani (1927-2002) >
    > abstain o change to o Ref:>
    >AFA/symbol Afghani (1927-2002)(symbol) >
    > remove o confirm code-fallback AFA Examples: Example: -64702.367 → ‎-AFA >
    > 64.702,37‎ → -64702.37 (Help) >
    > , CheckNumbers >
    > abstain o change to o Ref:>
    >AFN Afghani >
    > remove o confirm o Afghani Error: Can't have same translation as [AFA] (Help) >
    > abstain o change to o Ref:>
    >AFN/symbol Afghani (symbol) >
    > remove o confirm o Af Examples: Example: 79405.73 → ‎Af 79.405,73‎ → >
    > 079405.73 (Help) >
    > , CheckNumbers >
    > abstain o change to o Ref:>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    Looking at the first currency page as displayed in German, sorted by ISO code, there are very few occurrences of 'CUR/displayName', they are all linked to a radio button 'confirm-proposed-45-1. 'CUR' and 'CUR/symbol' are surrounded
    by a narrow rectangular frame, whereas 'CUR/displayName' is not.

    I am going to proceed assuming that, when either the translation under 'CUR' or under 'CUR/displayName' is correct, I am just to 'confirm' it and leave the other alone.

    Another improvement versus yesterday is that today, when following the 'Help' link at least, the currency displayed
    is the same as the one where the link is situated.

    Probably yesterday I looked by 'Priority' order and this also may explain my understanding difficulties and the problem with the 'Help' link.

    I suggest that the random number used for the example be always negative, as I understand the example as a mean to verify the full format.

    Best regards

    Walter

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    -----Original Message-----
    From: Philippe Verdy [mailto:verdy_p@wanadoo.fr]
    Sent: mercredi, le 22 mars 2006 2:16
    To: Mark Davis; Keutgen, Walter
    Cc: unicode@unicode.org
    Subject: Re: CLDR 1.4

    Walter did not ask anything about AFA/symbol, but about AFA/displayName and how it differs from AFA (alone).

    From: "Mark Davis" <mark.davis@icu-project.org>
    > AFA Afghani (1927-2002) is the name of the currency, eg "afghani" in French.
    >
    > AFA/symbol Afghani (1927-2002) (symbol) is the currency symbol. If there
    > isn't one, the ISO 4217 code is used (AFA). For example, for EUR/symbol
    > you will see "€".
    >
    > Keutgen, Walter wrote:
    >> can somebody explain the difference in the CLDR 1.4 survey tool between:
    >> AFA Afghani (1927-2002)
    >> and
    >> AFA/displayName



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