Greek reversed iota and upsilon with tilde

From: Alexandros Diamantidis (
Date: Tue Jun 27 2006 - 08:52:28 CDT

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    Hello all,

    While typing in some text from an old Greek dictionary, I encountered
    some instances of reversed iota with tilde, used as a semi-consonant.
    Yannis Haralambous had proposed small and capital reversed iota
    and upsilon with tilde in section 3.2 of "Guidelines and Suggested
    Amendments to the Greek Unicode Tables" presented at IUC 21 (Dublin
    2002), available at:

    As far as I can tell, most of the characters proposed in that paper
    aren't going to be encoded, since they can be composed from normal Greek
    letters and combining diacritics. One (GREEK CAPITAL LUNATE SIGMA
    SYMBOL) has since been encoded. The four reversed iota and upsilon
    characters don't seem to have been formally proposed by anybody.

    While searching the web for any relevant info, I found the following
    message by Nick Nicholas...

    ...and also a much more extensive discussion in his web pages here:

    OK, this seems like a valid way to treat them, considering that
    probably no text contains both reversed iota and normal iota with breve
    below. But shouldn't Unicode make a decision somewhere to say that yes,
    indeed, this is the way to treat them, or that no, distinct characters
    should be encoded for this purpose? I suppose the only way for a
    decision to be made is for someone to write a proposal and push it
    through the appropriate channels, right?

    I don't need this for something, my message was the result of idle
    curiosity. But I think it would be nice for the Unicode chapter on Greek
    (or maybe the FAQ list) to have a note about this (even just to tell
    anybody interested that there is no conclusion yet).

    Thanks for any ideas!


    Αλέξανδρος Διαμαντίδης *

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