Re: Frequent incorrect guesses by the charset autodetection in IE7

From: Doug Ewell (
Date: Sun Jul 16 2006 - 01:40:49 CDT

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    Sinnathurai Srivas <sisrivas at blueyonder dot co dot uk> wrote:

    > Unicode is not functioning properly, because ISO will not let go the
    > ISO. ISO will not anounce the deprecation of ISO 8859-x. This means
    > Unicode will not get through ISO systems.
    > ISO did a grave unjust to many of the languages, (some 20 and
    > counting) years of stagnation.

    No matter how enraged you may be, you need to get your facts straight or
    nobody will take seriously any valid arguments you may have.

    Whether "Unicode is functioning properly" has nothing to do with whether
    the ISO 8859 series of standards is functioning properly, or whether it
    has been deprecated or not. There is no reason the two cannot coexist
    in any given system, although it is less confusing if users and systems
    switch to Unicode. Likewise, no system is required to adhere to any
    part of the ISO 8859 series, regardless of whether ISO chooses to
    deprecate it.

    > Microsoft and many other major coorporations gangedup to ban adding
    > more languages to ISO8859-x. But they can not get Unicode to work
    > properly yet. So it is the reponsibility of these major coorporations
    > to ban all ISO8859 now.
    > As for Tamil attepts were made to encode Tamil for over 20 years now.
    > This was denied.

    Accusing large vendors of "ganging up" against Tamil makes a nice
    rallying cry -- "us against them," David versus Goliath -- but in fact
    there is no reason why Tamil users, Tamil industry consortia, or
    governmental organizations within Tamil-speaking regions could not have
    developed their own 8-bit encoding and propagated it throughout the
    industry. That is exactly what was done in Eastern Europe and elsewhere
    when existing character sets failed to meet the needs of vendors.

    > Infact, as ISO announced the banning of any more registration of new
    > ISO8859-x, after few years Iexisting ISO had become hacked and
    > illegal. Hence all ISO8859-x are illegal codes. They must be
    > deprecated as soon as possible, or if ISO thinks Unicode is not
    > working yet, then they should allow new 8bit encodings, while Unicode
    > matures.
    > Hence ISO is an illegal code now.

    "Illegal" is not a word with loose or flexible semantics; it means very
    clearly "in violation of some law." Please point the list to a law that
    applies to character sets, and specifically makes the use of ISO 8859 or
    any other character set a violation thereof, or else cease this
    groundless and inflammatory line of argument.

    Doug Ewell
    Fullerton, California, USA

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