Re: kurdish sorani

From: Andries Brouwer (
Date: Mon Aug 28 2006 - 20:27:21 CDT

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    On Mon, Aug 28, 2006 at 04:18:20PM -0400, Behnam Rassi wrote:
    > Hi,
    > I agree with John Hudson. Kurdish E can be achieved by U+06D5

    Yes. But then what is Kurdish H?

    > The other problem is with the definition of Arabic Heh itself and not
    > any particular local. Arabic Heh is an exception in that it has five
    > forms. The fifth form is 'abbreviated form' which is a non-joining
    > character used for abbreviation and enumeration.
    > Worse, this form is wrongly presented in Unicode PDF files as the
    > representative of Arabic letter Heh, which indeed should be the oval
    > form.
    > If the fifth form gets its own code, it may solve the problem in
    > Kurdish and many other languages as well.

    But Unicode does not encode shapes but semantics.
    So if two languages each have a Heh, but the shaping behaviour differs,
    then in principle different code points are required.
    That is why there is U+06CC next to U+064A (and U+0649).

    If I understand you correctly, your fifth form of Heh is
    the isolated form that now is commonly represented using
    U+0647,U+200D ?

    > I also noticed in PDF provided by Andries Brouwer that Kurdish Yeh
    > with small v above has also two dots below. I think it shouldn't have
    > any dot.

    Maybe this is as in ordinary arabic, where there is variation
    as to whether one uses dots on e.g. final yeh or not.
    Checking the Kurdish texts that I have, I find dotless final yeh with v,
    but dotted initial and medial yeh with v.


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