Re: Dotless J with stroke.

From: John Hudson (
Date: Tue Dec 11 2007 - 13:20:33 CST

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    Andreas Stötzner wrote:

    > It’s splendid if we folks know it better, but from a technical standard
    > I do expect avoiding of such oddities.

    In this case, the people to take this up with would be the International Phonetic
    Association, since these are the people who a) reliably use a form that resembles a barred
    esh and b) call it 'Hooked barred dotless J'. But perhaps this makes more sense if you
    look at the form of the related 'Barred dotless J' as typically found in IPA use, and then
    follow my point about the hook flowing from the main stem: you end up with the IPA form of
    'Hooked barred dotless J'.

    The problem, and the reason for my original question on this topic, is how to interpret
    the letter shapes in designs in which the j does not have a hooked descender. My
    inclination is that the 'Barred dotless J' and 'Hooked barred dotless J' should probably
    both take a hooked descender, even if the regular j does not, as this is in keeping with
    the expected conventions of the IPA alphabet which is, after all, a typographically
    contrived notation system with particular 'cultural' norms.

    John Hudson

    Tiro Typeworks
    Gulf Islands, BC
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