From: Doug Ewell (firstname.lastname@example.org)
Date: Sat Jan 03 2009 - 16:23:57 CST
Asmus Freytag <asmusf at ix dot netcom dot com> wrote:
> Unicode was definitely designed in firm opposition to ISO 2022 as well
> as ISO 10646 DIS-1 which all use(d) stateful controls to achieve
> code-set switching. Trying to reintroduce this, for example for
> private use set switching, is to take aim at one of the core design
> goals for the standard.
I contend that encoding fad symbols with only a very short history of
use, in a niche environment, some of which depend on color and animation
for their identity, takes aim at several different core design goals.
>> (I almost wrote "chirping." Are audio-enabled characters on the
> Been there, done that: U+0007, the control code to ring the BELL on
> your terminal predates Unicode by decades!
Nice. But TUS 5.0 doesn't list U+0007 in Table 16-1 (p. 533) as one of
the "Control Codes Specified in the Unicode Standard." Neither is it
treated in any special control-code way in SCSU (UTS #6), unlike NUL and
CR and LF. The implication is that UTC doesn't consider BEL as a
control code whose use is "widespread and important to
interoperability," whereas the whole point of encoding emoji seems to be
> PS: I'm content to allow the proposers to suggest the use of
> 'cartoon-style' drawings that suggest movement by graphical means. If
> that's what they end up proposing and if that is satisfactory for
> interoperability purposes, then I have no further problem. (I also
> would not have a problem if user agents that display yellow emoticons
> were to give a colorful rendition of U+263A).
I don't mind at all if characters *can* be colored and animated, by any
vendor who chooses to do so. I do mind if they *must* be colored and/or
animated in order to retain their identity, or be distinguishable from
other such characters.
-- Doug Ewell * Thornton, Colorado, USA * RFC 4645 * UTN #14 http://www.ewellic.org http://www1.ietf.org/html.charters/ltru-charter.html http://www.alvestrand.no/mailman/listinfo/ietf-languages ˆ
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