RE: Emoji: emoticons vs. literacy

From: Philippe Verdy (
Date: Sun Jan 11 2009 - 12:05:01 CST

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    Michael D'Errico wrote:
    > Michael Everson wrote:
    > > Do NOT think that encoding even ONE of the ten flags
    > proposed will not
    > > lead to a huge number of requests for additional characters. And do
    > > NOT think that those requests will not be reasonable.
    > Flags are actually a perfect example that could use the
    > method I've been talking about. If you had FLAG_A through
    > FLAG_Z you could specify any and all country flags with two
    > code points, e.g. FLAG_C FLAG_A for the Canadian flag.

    Your example is the perfect one to demonstrate that these pseudo-characters
    should NOT be encoded at all!
    With your logic it's even simpler to write "flag-CA.svg" (using standard
    latin letters and punctuation for this name) and let an upper-layer protocol
    (HTML or other) change this string into an actual colorful image (animated
    or not, from a collection of graphics depending on user preferences, just
    like preferences with fonts).

    In a plain-text only document 'witrhout any upper-layer protocol) there is
    absolutely no way to transport or assume the features needed for flags in a
    encoded character. The only thing you can do is to give a distinctive name
    of an image using some conventional syntax, or by tweaking your text to
    include some wellknown upper-layer protocol (like HTML or Wiki syntax or
    Bbcode in online forums), based on some patterns of delimiting punctuation.

    Flags are colored, their colors are extremely important and part of their
    design and needed for their distinction (look at the number of tricolor
    flags), unlike their animation (which is just an effect of style). The
    mandatory colors (and the animation) are disqualifying flags as being encodd
    as plain-text characters. They are not logograms, and they are also not
    politically neutral (thieeir usage is also regulated by laws tht may
    prohibit some of them, just like they can prohibit some texts but will not
    prohibit individual characters).

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