From: Kenneth Whistler (kenw@sybase.com)
Date: Tue May 05 2009 - 14:18:34 CDT
Albrecht Dreiheller wrote:
> I hereby propose to include the CE-Mark in the Unicode standard.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CE_mark
As John Jenkins indicated, the performative verb there is somewhat
anachronistic ("I hereby propose..."). You can propose encoding
a character to this list, but that doesn't actually accomplish
the introduction of a formal proposal that would be acted on
by the UTC and WG2. For that, you need to write up a proposal,
attach the Summary Proposal Form, and submit it to the UTC for
consideration (and later also WG2).
> The glyph outlines of the CE Mark are defined by rules of the European Union.
>
> Originally, the CE Mark is only a symbol that is used on products
> to mark them as, in a few words, "conforming to certain standards".
It seems a reasonable enough addition as a symbol for the standard,
but...
> The detailed "declaration of conformity" shipped with the product
> as a document
> does not really need the CE Mark to be written in the glyph
> form of the official CE Mark.
This really needs to be addressed in a formal proposal. The
specified design (which is followed in all of the documents you
linked to as exhibits) makes this look like a sequence of two
specially-styled letterlike symbols, a "C" and an "E", functioning together
to indicate the specified symbolic usage as the CE mark. Each
of the glyphs separately is wider than the digits typically
appearing with each of these document citations. So as an
encoding, should this be treated as one (very wide) symbol,
or as two specially styled letterlike symbols used in sequence
for this function?
Furthermore, if the CE Mark doesn't actually need "to be written
in the glyph form of the offical CE Mark", then what actually
*is* the acceptable range of glyph forms used for this, and
in that case, would a sequence of regular capital letters
serve as a substitute, i.e. "CE", the way the sequence "(c)"
often stands in for the copyright sign, or would "CE" be
considered to *be* the CE Mark?
> If you want more examples, take one of the European translations for
> "Declaration of conformity" and search the web:
I don't want more examples right now, but a formal proposal should
provide exhibits of a few usages in text, both in
the prescribed glyphic form shown by the links you provided,
but also demonstrating importantly any *other* forms that
the symbol takes.
--Ken
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