VS: Submitting Proposals (was: Re: Proposal to include CE Mark)

From: Erkki I. Kolehmainen (eik@iki.fi)
Date: Mon May 11 2009 - 01:50:50 CDT

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    I believe that John's statement needs clarification/correction.

    Proposals that have been submitted from WG2 to SC2 for balloting are
    routinely accepted as such by a somewhat smaller set of the same
    participants in SC2. Thereafter they are regularly changed by ballot
    comments, i.e., following the ISO procedures. Prior processing by the UTC
    does/would reduce the need for these changes.

    Sincerely, Erkki

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    Aihe: Re: Submitting Proposals (was: Re: Proposal to include CE Mark)

    Quoting "Mark Davis" <mark.edward.davis@gmail.com>:

    > Michael is correct.
    >
    > There is no guarantee that a character accepted into Unicode will be
    > accepted into ISO 10646.
    >
    > Nor is there any guarantee that a character accepted into ISO 10646
    > will be accepted into Unicode.
    >
    > That being said, both committees see the value of synchronization, and
    > have always worked together towards it. The proposal forms are
    > unified, as are the policies and procedures. So submission can be to
    > either body. Because the UTC meets more often, it may be useful to
    > submit there first so as to get more discussion; and any characters
    > that have unusual properties or other behavior are best first
    > submitted to the UTC, since that is the place for the definition of
    > the character properties and algorithms that are ultimately used by
    > computer systems to support the characters.
    >

    However in pratice the process is that proposals submitted to the UTC
    are then submitted to WG2, where changes both small and large are a
    matter of course, but that after proposals leave WG2 for SC2 they are
    never changed. Many proposals quiet correctly go directly to WG2.

    John

    > Mark
    >
    >
    > On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 02:30, Michael Everson <everson@evertype.com>
    > wrote:
    >
    >> On 9 May 2009, at 04:26, Christopher Fynn wrote:
    >>
    >> Do proposals now need to be submitted to the UTC for consideration
    >> before
    >>> they are submitted to WG2??
    >>>
    >>
    >> NO, they do NOT.
    >>
    >>
    >> Michael Everson * http://www.evertype.com/
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >

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