Re: Latin Script

From: Tulasi (tulasird@gmail.com)
Date: Mon Jun 07 2010 - 22:39:12 CDT

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    Jony -> A B C D E F G H I K L M N O P Q R S T V X Y Z
               ?

    You mean ALL CAPS again like UNICODE :)

    Van -> Do you mean historically or pragmatically?

    Actually something that will include all letters/symbols now
    considered Latin-script

    Otto Stolz -> Not exactly a definition: What the Unicode standard says
    on this issue, is here:

    There might be someone who already defined Latin script!
    Europeans have produced lot of scholars.

    Tulasi

    From: Jonathan Rosenne <jr@qsm.co.il>
    Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 22:05:11 +0300
    Subject: RE: Latin Script
    To: unicode@unicode.org

    How about

    A B C D E F G H I K L M N O P Q R S T V X Y Z

    ?

    There are also some extensions, see
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latin_alphabet for general background.

    Jony

    > -----Original Message-----
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    > Behalf Of Tulasi
    > Sent: Sunday, June 06, 2010 11:27 AM
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    > Subject: Latin Script
    >
    > How do you define Latin Script?

    From: vanisaac@boil.afraid.org
    Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2010 12:18:29 -0700
    Subject: Re: Latin Script
    To: tulasird@gmail.com, unicode@unicode.org

    From: Tulasi (tulasird@gmail.com)
    > How do you define Latin Script?

    Do you mean historically or pragmatically? Historically, it is an
    adaptation of the Ionian Greek (or is it Doric?), via Etruscan, for
    the purpose of writing Latin, and later extended by the addition of
    alternate letterforms (J, W, Þ, and the lower case) and diacritics to
    the use of western European languages and globally to indigenous
    languages in primary contact with western European languages that use
    the Latin alphabet.

    Pragmatically, it is the collection of characters that are used in
    languages in conjunction with the primary collection of Roman derived
    letterforms as an alphabetic script. This means that the syllabic
    Fraser Lisu is not Latin script. Neither is Cyrillic, even though it
    has imported Dze and Je - the basic Latin alphabet does not constitute
    the core of Cyrillic usage.

    Typographic tradition also plays a part - Greek would probably be a
    lot more ambiguous if it hadn't developed typographically among
    Byzantine scribes. Latin typography developed primarily among
    post-Roman and Carolignian scribal traditions, with offshoot
    blackletter and Italic scribal traditions that have secondary status
    in the modern script. Greek and Cyrillic don't share this history, and
    as such, even though they are structurally similar, they have evolved
    along different lines and constitute distinct scripts. The fact that
    you don't find languages that mix the two up is evidence of these
    schizms. The border languages choose one or the other, or they have
    two different orthographies that use each script independently of the
    other.

    Van

    From: Otto Stolz <Otto.Stolz@uni-konstanz.de>
    Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2010 21:50:23 +0200
    Subject: Re: Latin Script
    To: Tulasi <tulasird@gmail.com>
    Cc: unicode@unicode.org

    Am 2010-06-06 10:26, schrieb Tulasi:
    > How do you define Latin Script?

    Not exactly a definition: What the Unicode standard
    says on this issue, is here:
    7.1 Latin
    <http://www.unicode.org/versions/Unicode5.2.0/ch07.pdf#G4321>

    And a few words, e. g. “well-known”, are also here:
    6.1 Writing Systems
    <http://www.unicode.org/versions/Unicode5.2.0/ch06.pdf#G7382>

    Best wishes,
       Otto Stolz



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