Re: Civil suit; ftp shutdown; mailing list shutdown

From: Bill Poser <billposer2_at_gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2011 00:11:31 -0700

There's a discussion of the lawsuit on
Slashdot:http://yro.slashdot.org/story/11/10/06/1743226/civil-suit-filed-involving-the-time-zone-database

On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 10:14 PM, "Martin J. Dürst"
<duerst_at_it.aoyama.ac.jp>wrote:

> [By accident, I sent this only to Ken first; he recommended I send it to
> both Unicode and Unicore.]
>
> I have sent a mail to a relevant IETF list (apps-discuss_at_ietf.org); the
> IETF was looking into taking this over, with http://tools.ietf.org/html/**
> draft-lear-iana-timezone-**database-04<http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-lear-iana-timezone-database-04>,
> but apparently, Unicode got alerted first.
>
> In terms of practical matters, two points seem important to me:
>
> First, to ask the judge for a temporary permission (there's a better legal
> term, but IANAL) to keep the database up until the law suit is settled
> (because the database is probably down now due to a temporary order from the
> judge to that effect) because of its high practical importance.
>
> Second, what seems to be in dispute is data about old history. While this
> is important for some applications, in most applications, present and new
> data is much more important, so one way to avoid problems would be to
> publish only new data at some new place until the case is settled. That
> would mean that applications would have to be checked for whether they need
> the old data or not. Or to only publish diffs (which would be about new,
> present-day data not from the source under litigation).
>
> Regards, Martin.
>
> On 2011/10/07 4:45, Ken Lunde wrote:
>
>> Arle and others,
>>
>> The URL for the following blog post was tweeted a few minutes ago:
>>
>> http://blog.joda.org/2011/10/**today-time-zone-database-was-**
>> closed.html<http://blog.joda.org/2011/10/today-time-zone-database-was-closed.html>
>>
>> -- Ken
>>
>> On Oct 6, 2011, at 9:45 AM, Arle Lommel wrote:
>>
>> Is there any public information about the lawsuit? I was stunned to see
>>> the forwarded mail and want to understand the implications of this lawsuit,
>>> but I can't find any news about it other than Arthur’s rather telegraphic
>>> note. I understand that he may not be able to comment given pending
>>> litigation, but if we had any information at all about what the suit is, it
>>> might help clarify if there is any need for concern.
>>>
>>> -Arle
>>>
>>> It would be nice, but I don't think the Consortium can do that without
>>>> first understanding if it gets exposed to its own lawsuit.
>>>>
>>>> Eric.
>>>>
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