Re: Unicode 6.2 to Support the Turkish Lira Sign

From: Michael Everson <>
Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 11:26:04 +0100

On 23 May 2012, at 10:00, Szelp, A. Sz. wrote:

> ₹: a stemless R crossed (< RA crossed)

This is both Devanagari RA and half a Latin R.

> £: a fancy L with a horizontal stroke
> ₤: a fancy L with two horizontal strokes
> Quite tellingly in the case of the EURO it is *not* the very geometric "official" glyph of the Euro that is encoded, it is not even chosen for the representative glyph.

Yes, and discussion is going on with typographers even now to determine how the new charac

> So what is the proposed TURKISH LIRA SIGN, if not a "fancy L with two horizontal strokes"?

"Fancy" is meaningless here. The TURKISH LIRA SIGN does not have a curvy S-shaped vertical, but rather a straight vertical like a capital L. It's based not on a script or handwritten L, but on a typographic L with some notions of "anchor" thrown in. It was engineered. It is not the result of a ductus development.

Interestingly, in the old metal Caslon fonts, the pound sign was a turned italic capital J. Modern revivals of Caslon keep that £ but revise the J to be more like an I with a descender. I have a Caslon sampler poster framed in my office, and you can see an sample of that old J at

Michael Everson *
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