Re: COMBINING OVER MARK?

From: Leo Broukhis <leob_at_mailcom.com>
Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2013 17:05:10 -0700

If my understanding of interlinear annotations is correct, to achieve
similarity with the attached sample some markup will be required as well:

anathemati<sup><U+FFF9>z<U+FFFA>s<U+FFFB></sup>e.

Leo

On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 3:51 PM, Jean-François Colson <jf_at_colson.eu> wrote:

> Le 01/10/13 15:39, Philippe Verdy a écrit :
>
> In plain text, we would just use the [s|z] notation without care about
> presentation & font sizes used in the rendered rich text page. It correctly
> represent the intended alternation without giving more importance to one
> base letter.
> But it you wanted to allow plain text search with collators, you would
> need to choose one as the base letter and the other one as a combining
> diacritic with ignored higher-level differences, using either US English or
> British/International English to fix the base letter (the other letter
> would be an interlinear annotation for the second orthography, either above
> or below the base letter).
>
>
> Interlinear annotation… Yes, of course, you could write
> anathemati<U+FFF9>z<U+FFFA>s<U+FFFB>e. Halas, the characters
> U+FFF9 INTERLINEAR ANNOTATION ANCHOR
> U+FFFA INTERLINEAR ANNOTATION SEPARATOR
> U+FFFB INTERLINEAR ANNOTATION TERMINATOR
> are not supported by any software I know.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 2013/10/1 Steffen Daode <sdaoden_at_gmail.com>
>
>> Khaled Hosny <khaledhosny_at_eglug.org> wrote:
>> |Using TeX:
>> |
>> | \def\s{${}^{\rm s}_{\rm z}$}
>>
>> Using groff:
>>
>> #!/bin/sh -
>>
>> cat << \! > t.tr
>> .de zs
>> . nr #1 \\w'z'
>> \\Z'\
>> \\v'-.25v's\
>> \\h'-\\n(#1u'\
>> \\v'.5v'z\
>> '\
>> \\h'\\n(#1u'
>> . rr #1
>> ..
>> Fraterni
>> .zs
>> e.
>> !
>>
>> groff t.tr > t.ps
>> ps2pdf t.ps
>> rm t.tr t.ps
>> exit 0
>>
>> (Can surely be tweaked.)
>>
>> |Regards,
>> |Khaled
>>
>> Ciao,
>>
>> --steffen
>>
>>
>> ---------- Message transféré ----------
>> From: Khaled Hosny <khaledhosny_at_eglug.org>
>> To: Leo Broukhis <leob_at_mailcom.com>
>> Cc: unicode Unicode Discussion <unicode_at_unicode.org>
>> Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2013 11:09:31 +0200
>> Subject: Re: COMBINING OVER MARK?
>> On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 05:51:09PM -0700, Leo Broukhis wrote:
>> > Hi All,
>> >
>> > Attached is a part of page 36 of Henry Alford's *The Queen's English: a
>> > manual of idiom and usage (1888)* [
>> > http://archive.org/details/queensenglishman00alfo]
>> >
>> > Is the way to indicate alternative s/z spellings used there plain text
>> > (arguably, if it can be done with a typewriter, it is plain text)
>>
>> I see a typeset book not an output of a typewriter.
>>
>> > or rich text (ignoring the font size of letters s and z)?
>> >
>> > If it's the latter, what's the markup to achieve it?
>>
>> Using TeX:
>>
>> \def\s{${}^{\rm s}_{\rm z}$}
>>
>> 49. How are we to decide between {\it s} and {\it z} in such words as
>> anathemati\s{}e, cauteri\s{}e, criti\-ci\s{}e, deodori\s{}e,
>> dogmati\s{}e,
>> fraterni\s{}e, and the rest? Many of these are derived from Greek
>> \bye
>>
>> Regards,
>> Khaled
>>
>>
>
>
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