Re: Unicode Digest, Vol 4, Issue 1

From: Nicole Selken <nikiselken_at_gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2014 17:50:01 -0400

I think Emoji is totally beneficial as a communication form. Yea, it takes
op some UTF space and such but they literally affect different parts of the
brain then written
words.<http://www.smithsonianmag.com/ist/?next=/smart-news/your-brain-now-processes-smiley-face-real-smile-180949732/>
In
this way they change the kind of communication possible. Also, so many
people (especially the young) are using them, to ignore them or dismiss
them would be a mistake.

I like that they were included into the character set for Unicode and I
would love to talk with someone who was a decision maker on that panel for
my Emoji Project. If anyone who has worked on it has some time, drop me a
line!

https://niki-selken.squarespace.com/#/world-translation-foundation/

Thanks,

Niki Selken

Working on: www.nikiselken.com
  <https://twitter.com/nikistyxx> <http://facebook.com/nikiselken>

On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 1:00 PM, <unicode-request_at_unicode.org> wrote:

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> 1. Call for the experts of U+3013 (suzuki toshiya)
> 2. FYI: More emoji from Chrome (Mark Davis ??)
> 3. Re: FYI: More emoji from Chrome (Philippe Verdy)
> 4. Re: FYI: More emoji from Chrome (Mark Davis ??)
> 5. Re: FYI: More emoji from Chrome (Mathias Bynens)
> 6. Bidi reordering of soft hyphen (James Clark)
> 7. Re: FYI: More emoji from Chrome (Ilya Zakharevich)
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> From: suzuki toshiya <mpsuzuki_at_hiroshima-u.ac.jp>
> To: Unicode Discussion <unicode_at_unicode.org>
> Cc:
> Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2014 09:28:26 +0900
> Subject: Call for the experts of U+3013
> Dear all,
>
> Today I submitted a preliminary proposal to standardize
> Variation Selectors for U+3013, so-called "GETA" mark.
>
> ftp://std.dkuug.dk/ftp.anonymous/JTC1/SC2/WG2/docs/n4572.pdf
>
> The geta mark was introduced from JIS X 0208:1990 and
> GB 2312-1980. When I check the original documents
> including the geta mark, some of the representative glyphs
> in these regional standards are different from original
> geta mark. I investigated theoretically possible visual
> shapes of the geta mark, and concluded the registry-based
> standardization of the geta mark is a considerable option.
>
> Unfortunately, the officially printed matters including
> the geta mark is not popular (I found only a few books
> in Japanese national diet library), so I want to hear the
> comments from the geta expert for the official proposal.
>
> Regards,
> mpsuzuki
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "Mark Davis ☕️" <mark_at_macchiato.com>
> To: Unicode Public <unicode_at_unicode.org>
> Cc:
> Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2014 09:01:39 +0200
> Subject: FYI: More emoji from Chrome
> More emoji from Chrome:
>
> http://chrome.blogspot.ch/2014/04/a-faster-mobiler-web-with-emoji.html
>
> with video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3NXNnoGr3Y
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Philippe Verdy <verdy_p_at_wanadoo.fr>
> To: "Mark Davis ☕️" <mark_at_macchiato.com>
> Cc: Unicode Public <unicode_at_unicode.org>
> Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2014 09:13:39 +0200
> Subject: Re: FYI: More emoji from Chrome
> April 1st joke...
>
>
> 2014-04-01 9:01 GMT+02:00 Mark Davis ☕️ <mark_at_macchiato.com>:
>
>> More emoji from Chrome:
>>
>> http://chrome.blogspot.ch/2014/04/a-faster-mobiler-web-with-emoji.html
>>
>> with video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3NXNnoGr3Y
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> From: "Mark Davis ☕️" <mark_at_macchiato.com>
> To: verdy_p <verdy_p_at_wanadoo.fr>
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> Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2014 09:20:59 +0200
> Subject: Re: FYI: More emoji from Chrome
> Yup!
>
>
> Mark <https://google.com/+MarkDavis>
>
> *— Il meglio è l’inimico del bene —*
>
>
> On 1 April 2014 09:13, Philippe Verdy <verdy_p_at_wanadoo.fr> wrote:
>
>> April 1st joke...
>>
>>
>> 2014-04-01 9:01 GMT+02:00 Mark Davis ☕️ <mark_at_macchiato.com>:
>>
>>> More emoji from Chrome:
>>>
>>> http://chrome.blogspot.ch/2014/04/a-faster-mobiler-web-with-emoji.html
>>>
>>> with video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3NXNnoGr3Y
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> From: Mathias Bynens <mathias_at_qiwi.be>
> To: verdy_p_at_wanadoo.fr
> Cc: "Mark Davis ☕️" <mark_at_macchiato.com>, Unicode Public <
> unicode_at_unicode.org>
> Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2014 09:25:29 +0200
> Subject: Re: FYI: More emoji from Chrome
> On 1 Apr 2014, at 09:13, Philippe Verdy <verdy_p_at_wanadoo.fr> wrote:
>
> > April 1st joke...
>
> Sure – it really works, though. Try it out. Kinda cool :)
>
> I would’ve preferred if Google had finally implemented support for proper
> emoji in OS X, though:
> https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=62435
>
>
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> From: James Clark <jjc_at_jclark.com>
> To: unicode_at_unicode.org
> Cc:
> Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2014 12:51:11 +0700
> Subject: Bidi reordering of soft hyphen
> Suppose I have a paragraph (uppercase = RTL):
>
> CARROT IS car\u00ADrot IN ENGLISH
>
> and the paragraph gets broken at the soft hyphen.
>
> Is the correct ordering for the first line
>
> car- SI TORRAC
>
> or
>
> -car SI TORRAC
>
> ? I did not succeed in deducing the answer from UAX#9. Soft hyphen has
> bidi class BN, which means it gets removed in stage X9, and so, if I have
> understood correctly, doesn't have a defined embedding level.
>
> I'm guessing the correct ordering is the first one, but I don't trust my
> instincts here. (In particular, I wondered whether this was analogous to
> the case where rule L1 resets embedding levels so that trailing whitespace
> is at the visual end of the line.)
>
> More generally, suppose you have a markup language which has a construct
> for discretionary breaks, as in TeX, with pre-break, post-break and
> no-break text. Soft hyphen is a special case of this (where the pre-break
> text consists of a hyphen, and the pos and no-break texts are empty); you
> can also regard space as a kind of discretionary break (post-break text
> empty, no-break text contains the space, pre-break text either contains the
> space or is empty, depending on how you want to think about it). Obviously
> the embedding level for the no-break text should be resolved as if
> discretionary break was replaced by the no-break text (which is consistent
> with a bidi class of BN for soft hyphen). However, for the pre- and
> post-break text, it is not clear to me what the right way is to resolve
> embedding levels (or how their content should be restricted so that there
> is a sensible way to resolve the embedding levels). I would be grateful for
> any suggestions.
>
> James
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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> From: Ilya Zakharevich <nospam-abuse_at_ilyaz.org>
> To: Mark Davis ☕️ <mark_at_macchiato.com>
> Cc: Unicode Public <unicode_at_unicode.org>
> Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2014 09:43:43 -0700
> Subject: Re: FYI: More emoji from Chrome
> On Tue, Apr 01, 2014 at 09:01:39AM +0200, Mark Davis ☕️ wrote:
> > More emoji from Chrome:
> >
> > http://chrome.blogspot.ch/2014/04/a-faster-mobiler-web-with-emoji.html
> >
> > with video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3NXNnoGr3Y
>
> I do not know… The demos leave me completely unimpressed: emoji — by
> their nature — require higher resolution than text, so an emoji for
> “pie” does not save any place comparing to the word itself. So the
> impact of this on everyday English-languare communication would not be
> in any way beneficial.
>
> However, this MAY be a beginning of revolution in scientific
> communication. Science-and-about publications contains very long
> words in abundance, and it is HERE where impact of emojification
> should be felt the most! So I think the task of emojification of
> scientific terms — be it “secularization”, “gamma-globulin”, or
> “derived ∞-category” — should be at elevated priority in the Unicode
> commitees.
>
> The general public often considers scientific publications are too
> dense, and does not bother to read many scienific journals. What
> Google did is a beginning of a major step forward in making
> contemporary science (finally!) accessible to general public.
>
> Ilya
>
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