RE: Unicode encoding policy

From: Tex Texin <>
Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2014 16:50:25 -0800

True, however as William points out, apparently the rules have changed, so it isn’t unreasonable to ask again whether the rules now allow it, or if people that dismissed the idea in the past would now consider it.


Personally, I think this is the wrong place for it, and as has been suggested numerous times, it makes sense to host the discussion elsewhere among interested parties.


Although, I am not interested in the general case, there is a need for specialized cases. Just as some road sign symbols are near universal, there is a need for symbols for quick and universal communications in emergencies. Identifying places of safety or danger on a map, or for the injured to describe symptoms, pains, and the nature of their injury (or first aid workers to discuss victims’ issues), or to describe the nature of a calamity (fire, landslide, bomb, attack, etc.), etc.


William, You might consider identifying where there are needs for such universal text, and working with groups that would benefit, to get support for universal text symbols.







From: Unicode [] On Behalf Of Erkki I Kolehmainen
Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 2:02 PM
Subject: VS: Unicode encoding policy


Mr. Overington,


The question of support for localizable sentences has been raised by you on several occasions. For a number of valid reasons, It has never received any noticeable support, let alone the kind of support that you are asking for now.




Erkki I. Kolehmainen

Tilkankatu 12 A 3, 00300 Helsinki, Finland

Mob: +358400825943, Tel / Fax (by arr.): +358943682643


Lähettäjä: Unicode [] Puolesta William_J_G Overington
Lähetetty: 23. joulukuuta 2014 19:58
Aihe: Unicode encoding policy


Unicode encoding policy

There is a document.

Within the document, the following are interesting items.

E.1.7 Emoji Additions: popular requests [Edberg, Davis, L2/14-272]

Discussion. UTC took no action at this time.

Later, in the same document is the following.

E.1.7 Emoji Additions: popular requests [Edberg, Davis, L2/14-272R]

[141-C6] Consensus: Add the block U+1F900..U+1F9FF Supplemental Symbols and Pictographs for Unicode version 8.0.

The referenced document contains links to various requests and petitions for additional emoji characters.

In the referenced document, within section C, is the following.

5. Are the proposed characters in current use by the user community?

This appears to be a major change in encoding policy.
This, in my opinion, is a welcome, progressive change in policy that allows new characters for use in a pure electronic technology to be added into regular Unicode without a requirement to first establish widespread use by using an encoding within a Unicode Private Use Area.
I feel that it is now therefore possible to seek encoding of symbols, perhaps in abstract emoji format and semi-abstract emoji format, so as to implement a system for communication through the language barrier by whole localizable sentences, with that system designed by interested people without the need to produce any legacy data that is encoded using an encoding within a Unicode Private Use Area.
A first draft petition could be produced and then later drafts developed by consensus and, when drafting has produced a document for an initial core system then a petition could be submitted to the Unicode Technical Committee.
Once in use, the system could have additional symbols added to it, gradually, so as to expand its capabilities as needs are identified.
So I am writing to ask if people on this mailing list would be interested in discussing and perhaps encouraging and participating in the development of this system please?
William Overington
23 December 2014

Unicode mailing list
Received on Tue Dec 23 2014 - 18:51:47 CST

This archive was generated by hypermail 2.2.0 : Tue Dec 23 2014 - 18:51:47 CST