Re: Windows 10 release (is still: Re: WORD JOINER vs ZWNBSP)

From: Richard Wordingham <>
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2015 19:48:00 +0100

On Wed, 29 Jul 2015 10:10:02 +0200 (CEST)
Marcel Schneider <> wrote:

> On 02 Jul 2015, at 12:22, I replied:
> > However, I believe that WJs being a part of plain text, they should
> > be properly supported on all text handling applications. And they
> > should be on the keyboard.
> > The solution I suggest is therefore to have the word joiner (and
> > the sequences containing it) on Ctrl+Alt or Kana, and the zero
> > width no-break space on Shift+Ctrl+Alt or Shift+Kana, so that users
> > working efficently on good software may access the preferred
> > character a bit easier than users who must use the deprecated
> > character because their word processor does not properly support
> > the preferred one.

> Unfortunately that doesnʼt work on at least one recent version of
> Windows. An unambigous bug was due to the presence of 0x2060 in the
> Ligatures table. This has cost me a whole workday to retrieve, fix,
> and verify.

> The effect of the bug was that Word, Excel, Firefox and Zotero were
> unstartable.

> As a result, the WORD JOINER cannot be implemented on a driver based
> keyboard layout for general use on Windows. By contrast, the ZWNBSP
> can.

Your lament is a bit vague - I'm not sure what U+2060 is doing in a
'ligature table'. I can say that a Windows keyboard mapping that
maps AltGr-M to WJ which was created using MSKLC on Windows 7 in April
2011 still works.

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