Accumulated Feedback on PRI #312

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Date/Time: Mon Jan 4 01:29:50 CST 2016
Name: Ben Scarborough
Report Type: Error Report
Opt Subject: Error in L2/15-339

There are two errors in the CJK F charts in L2/15-339 
(also WG2 N4705 and IRG N2130):

1. The source and glyph for KC-06578 are at U+2D1D1 
(=JMJ-059415) instead of U+2E068 (=JMJ-059958).

2. The source and glyph for KC-07044 are at U+2D394 
(=USAT-03073) instead of U+2DA7C (=GZJW-01933).

Date/Time: Wed Jan 6 02:05:44 CST 2016
Name: Simon Montagu
Report Type: Public Review Issue
Opt Subject: PRI 312 p.95: Tamil symbols

In the annotations to 11FDE TAMIL SIGN BAARAM and 11FDF TAMIL SIGN GEJAM 
giving approximate equivalents, I suggest using metric units as well or 
even instead of pounds and feet.

Date/Time: Wed Jan 6 04:28:37 CST 2016
Name: Philippe Verdy
Report Type: Public Review Issue
Opt Subject: PRI312: U+1F95B "GLASS OF MILK"

The representative glyph is not really distinctable with a generic glass of
liquid (it could as well be water) The name currently chosen is GLASS OF MILK,
but the note says it could be used as well to represent MILK only (without the
glass). As well there's a very wide variance in the kind of glass that could
be used. But I see really nothing that associates the glyph really with milk.

If the intent is really to represent milk, then the glyph is not
represetnative at all, and a more common represetnation would be based on this
object ("pot au lait" in French), such as these:

http://jaimejedeteste.hautetfort.com/media/01/00/3423038655.jpg

more images can be found on https://www.google.fr/search?q=pot+au+lait&rlz=1C1
AVNE_enFR649FR649&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwid5KzT-
pTKAhWKBBoKHSPJD84QsAQINA&biw=1920&bih=955

This object itself, generally metallic, whihc exists in various sizes, has a
consistent form and is used almost only for milk; it is still used for large
volumes.

For smaller volumes (about 1 liter) found now in western shops, it is now more
often a brick in carton, on which you could draw a cow head to disambiguate it
with various bricks used for many beverages and soups. Or in UK it is still a
bottle of glass.

For now, I cannot see any reasonnable distinction with a generic "FILLED
GLASS", nothing really indicates it is in fact "MILK" except the name.

Date/Time: Wed Jan 6 10:29:06 CST 2016
Name: David Corbett
Report Type: Public Review Issue
Opt Subject: PRI #312

In the Bengali block, the heading “SignS” should be “Signs”.

The note for U+09FC BENGALI LETTER VEDIC ANUSVARA (“denotes a Vedic anusvara”)
seems redundant and unnecessary.

U+2BD2 GROUP MARK should have a cross-reference to the record mark, whatever
that is determined to be; L2/15-083 suggests U+2021 DOUBLE DAGGER.

The glyph for U+11A98 SOYOMBO GEMINATION MARK is wrong: the triangle should be
directly above the dotted circle, not above and to the right.

In the Ideographic Symbols and Punctuation block, the heading “Nushu mark”
could be “Nüshu mark”. The note for U+1B1FE could also use “Nüshu”.

The note for the Nushu block should explain the “-a” suffix in some readings.
Alternatively, the suffixes could be removed, since now that the readings are
not in the character names, they need no longer be unique.

Date/Time: Mon Jan 18 08:59:27 CST 2016
Name: Naga Ganesan
Report Type: Public Review Issue
Opt Subject: PRI 312 - Tamil symbols and fractions

Govt. of Tamil Nadu has submitted an expert committe proposal, 
and is available at
http://www.unicode.org/L2/L2016/16007-tamil-frac.pdf

These code charts should be used for Tamil symbols and fractions

But there are errors and inconsistencies in Character naming, for example,
in use of long vs. short vowels. Also, Unicode character annotations
cannot contain any Tamil script, only simple English letters.
So, we can convert the annotations into Latin/English script for encoding
these archaic symbols in SMP. And, also the right vowel lengths of Tamil words.
We can talk about these issues next week at UTC meeting.

N. Ganesan

Date/Time: Mon Jan 18 12:19:27 CST 2016
Name: stas
Report Type: Feedback on an Encoding Proposal
Opt Subject: Feedback on L2/15-339 Draft additional repertoire
for ISO/IEC 10646:2016 (5th edition) CD.2


To be in sync with other similar already encoded characters (U+1F42D MOUSE FACE, etc.), 
it would be better to rename the following characters:
U+1F98C DEER -> DEER FACE
U+1F98D GORILLA -> GORILLA FACE
U+1F98F RHINOCEROS -> RHINOCEROS FACE

Date/Time: Tue Jan 19 11:48:07 CST 2016
Name: Rainer Seitel
Report Type: Public Review Issue
Opt Subject: PRI #312

• 2BD2 GROUP MARK
On page 8 and 9 (and figure 8) is also shown a "record mark". For this is the 
DOUBLE DAGGER named as used for printing. Both should be geometrical symbols or 
both typographical symbols.
Note that sans serif daggers look like geometrical symbols.

29E7 ⧧ THERMODYNAMIC and proposed 2BD2 GROUP MARK
or
2021 ‡ DOUBLE DAGGER and proposed TRIPLE DAGGER from proposal N4704 / L2/15-327 mediavalist punctuation.

After a decicion add appropiate comments to the nameslist.

• Forgotten references from proposal N3584 alchemical symbols.
Add the unification comments "= …" and cross references from page 10 to 11 to the nameslist.

• 2736 remove comment "= sextile". This is now 26B9 SEXTILE.

• 2E46 INVERTED LOW KAVYKA WITH KAVYKA ABOVE
Add a cross reference to the similar looking U+AB5B MODIFIER BREVE WITH INVERTED BREVE, and vice versa.

• 1F1A0–1F1A4 add comments for the intended usage. (Not all users are technical up-to-date.)

• 1F927 SNEEZING FACE
As a German word "gesundheit" is spelled title case "Gesundheit".

• 1F930 PREGNANT WOMAN
Rename to PREGNANT.
An increasing number of countries accept intersex as a third sex. Also, there are 
transgender people, that are legal men, but biological women, and can be pregnant. 
There exist children born by legal men.

Beside this, it is prefered to declare characters as sexless, as much as possible.

• 1F940 WILTED FLOWER
Glyph looks like a lily of the valley. The Emoji glyph looks better, since it contains a fallen leaf.

• 1F956 BAGUETTE BREAD
Glyph shows a normal German bread. Use the original thiner glyph.

• 1F985 DUCK
This feetless glyph looks more like a rubber duck, than a living duck.