From rick@unicode.org Thu Jan 4 12:20:34 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list cldr-users); Thu, 04 Jan 2007 12:23:35 -0600 (CST) Received: from izanami (c-67-188-204-169.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [67.188.204.169]) by unicode.org (8.13.4/8.12.11) with SMTP id l04IKM7R027932; Thu, 4 Jan 2007 12:20:23 -0600 Message-Id: <200701041820.l04IKM7R027932@unicode.org> To: unicode@unicode.org, cldr-users@unicode.org Subject: CLDR Version 1.4.1 availability Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 10:20:24 -0800 From: Rick McGowan received: by Apple.Mailer (2.95.2) X-archive-position: 6 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: cldr-users-bounce@unicode.org Errors-to: cldr-users-bounce@unicode.org X-original-sender: rick@unicode.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: cldr-users@unicode.org X-list: cldr-users Version 1.4.1 of the Common Locale Data Repository (CLDR) is an update release that was made available on 2006-11-03 as a CVS-tag release. The CLDR committee has decided to make it a regular release with zipped data and a release page, available on 2007-01-03. The changes in Version 1.4.1 include: updates for new region codes (RS and ME for Serbia and Montenegro), added new Time Zone IDs added new language tags added the list of private use language & script codes that won't be used by CLDR For more information, see http://unicode.org/cldr/version/1.4.1.html Regards, Rick McGowan Unicode, Inc. From rick@unicode.org Thu Jan 4 19:00:03 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list cldr-users); Thu, 04 Jan 2007 19:04:38 -0600 (CST) Received: from izanami (c-67-188-204-169.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [67.188.204.169]) by unicode.org (8.13.4/8.12.11) with SMTP id l050xavh026510; Thu, 4 Jan 2007 18:59:37 -0600 Message-Id: <200701050059.l050xavh026510@unicode.org> To: unicode@unicode.org Subject: New Public Review Issue: UTR #33 Proposed Draft Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 16:59:37 -0800 From: Rick McGowan received: by Apple.Mailer (2.95.2) X-archive-position: 7 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: cldr-users-bounce@unicode.org Errors-to: cldr-users-bounce@unicode.org X-original-sender: rick@unicode.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: cldr-users@unicode.org X-list: cldr-users The Unicode Technical Committee has posted a new issue for public review and comment. Details are on the following web page: http://www.unicode.org/review/ Review periods for the new item closes on January 30, 2007. Please see the page for links to discussion and relevant documents. Briefly, the new issue is: Public Review Issue #99 Proposed Draft UTR #33, Unicode Conformance Model The UTC has released an updated draft of the technical report describing the conformance model for the Unicode Standard. Review and feedback are welcome. If you have comments for official UTC consideration, please post them by submitting your comments through our feedback & reporting page: http://www.unicode.org/reporting.html If you wish to discuss issues on the Unicode mail list, then please use the following link to subscribe (if necessary). Please be aware that discussion comments on the Unicode mail list are not automatically recorded as input to the UTC. You must use the reporting link above to generate comments for UTC consideration. http://www.unicode.org/consortium/distlist.html Regards, Rick McGowan Unicode, Inc. From rick@unicode.org Thu Jan 4 19:06:32 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list cldr-users); Thu, 04 Jan 2007 19:09:38 -0600 (CST) Received: from izanami (c-67-188-204-169.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [67.188.204.169]) by unicode.org (8.13.4/8.12.11) with SMTP id l0516TLn031267; Thu, 4 Jan 2007 19:06:29 -0600 Message-Id: <200701050106.l0516TLn031267@unicode.org> To: unicode@unicode.org Subject: New Public Review Issue: Giving U+00B7 MIDDLE DOT the ID_Continue Property Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 17:06:24 -0800 From: Rick McGowan received: by Apple.Mailer (2.95.2) X-archive-position: 8 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: cldr-users-bounce@unicode.org Errors-to: cldr-users-bounce@unicode.org X-original-sender: rick@unicode.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: cldr-users@unicode.org X-list: cldr-users The Unicode Technical Committee has posted a new issue for public review and comment. Details are on the following web page: http://www.unicode.org/review/ Review period for the new item closes on January 30, 2007. Please see the page for links to discussion and relevant documents. Briefly, the new issue is: Public Review Issue #100 Giving U+00B7 MIDDLE DOT the ID_Continue Property The character U+00B7 MIDDLE DOT has the XID_Continue property, but not the ID_Continue property. It is the only character of this sort. The UTC is considering removing this exception, thus making the set of XID_Continue characters a proper subset of ID_Continue characters. Some further details are on the Review page: http://www.unicode.org/review/index.html#pri100 If you have comments for official UTC consideration, please post them by submitting your comments through our feedback & reporting page: http://www.unicode.org/reporting.html If you wish to discuss issues on the Unicode mail list, then please use the following link to subscribe (if necessary). Please be aware that discussion comments on the Unicode mail list are not automatically recorded as input to the UTC. You must use the reporting link above to generate comments for UTC consideration. http://www.unicode.org/consortium/distlist.html Regards, Rick McGowan Unicode, Inc. From dzo@bisharat.net Thu Jan 4 19:54:19 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list cldr-users); Thu, 04 Jan 2007 19:54:19 -0600 (CST) Received: from kabissa.org (kabissa.org [64.39.15.8] (may be forged)) by unicode.org (8.13.4/8.12.11) with ESMTP id l051sI0O004796 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 2007 19:54:19 -0600 Received: (qmail 17597 invoked from network); 4 Jan 2007 19:54:18 -0600 Received: from pool-72-75-3-109.washdc.east.verizon.net (HELO IBM92AA25595C4) (72.75.3.109) by kabissa.org with SMTP; 4 Jan 2007 19:54:18 -0600 From: "Don Osborn" To: References: In-Reply-To: Subject: Online simple listing of locales filed in CLDR Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 20:53:42 -0500 Message-ID: <004101c7306c$66d36640$347a32c0$@net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AccjkAisndKVRtfEQLmBAGeTi3iHsAM22D5g Content-Language: en-us x-cr-hashedpuzzle: bBE= iBg= BC9H CGTi CIbk Chbx CsnT DRvQ EfCo FSq4 FzUt F6tQ GDas GJly GPtZ JcXC;1;YwBsAGQAcgAtAHUAcwBlAHIAcwBAAHUAbgBpAGMAbwBkAGUALgBvAHIAZwA=;Sosha1_v1;7;{7A22785E-41E5-4108-960F-0D0963486F5F};ZAB6AG8AQABiAGkAcwBoAGEAcgBhAHQALgBuAGUAdAA=;Fri, 05 Jan 2007 01:53:33 GMT;TwBuAGwAaQBuAGUAIABzAGkAbQBwAGwAZQAgAGwAaQBzAHQAaQBuAGcAIABvAGYAIABsAG8AYwBhAGwAZQBzACAAZgBpAGwAZQBkACAAaQBuACAAQwBMAEQAUgA= x-cr-puzzleid: {7A22785E-41E5-4108-960F-0D0963486F5F} X-archive-position: 9 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: cldr-users-bounce@unicode.org Errors-to: cldr-users-bounce@unicode.org X-original-sender: dzo@bisharat.net Precedence: bulk Reply-to: cldr-users@unicode.org X-list: cldr-users Probably I'm missing it, but I was looking without success for a simple list or table on the CLDR pages showing the locales filed by language (& country). There are comparison charts, block-lists of languages and of countries (separately), and files to download, but apparently no simple summary that lets you see at a glance what is and isn't filed. Such a list or table might most appropriately have some additional info of course, but I'm looking for something to refer people to for basic info. TIA. Don From Peter.Nugent@Sun.COM Fri Jan 5 03:33:22 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list cldr-users); Fri, 05 Jan 2007 03:33:22 -0600 (CST) Received: from gmp-ea-fw-1.sun.com (gmp-ea-fw-1.sun.com [192.18.1.36]) by unicode.org (8.13.4/8.12.11) with ESMTP id l059XHWx002874 for ; Fri, 5 Jan 2007 03:33:21 -0600 Received: from d1-emea-10.sun.com (d1-emea-10.sun.com [192.18.2.120]) by gmp-ea-fw-1.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id l059XBhh028264 for ; Fri, 5 Jan 2007 09:33:11 GMT Received: from conversion-daemon.d1-emea-10.sun.com by d1-emea-10.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) id <0JBE005012I5J100@d1-emea-10.sun.com> (original mail from Peter.Nugent@Sun.COM) for cldr-users@unicode.org; Fri, 05 Jan 2007 09:33:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from [129.156.220.75] by d1-emea-10.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTPSA id <0JBE00J2N2JBCX4H@d1-emea-10.sun.com> for cldr-users@unicode.org; Fri, 05 Jan 2007 09:33:11 +0000 (GMT) Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2007 09:33:11 +0000 From: Peter.Nugent@Sun.COM Subject: Re: Online simple listing of locales filed in CLDR In-reply-to: <004101c7306c$66d36640$347a32c0$@net> To: cldr-users@unicode.org Message-id: <459E1B57.3000001@Sun.COM> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, it, en References: <004101c7306c$66d36640$347a32c0$@net> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; SunOS sun4u; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20060120 X-archive-position: 10 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: cldr-users-bounce@unicode.org Errors-to: cldr-users-bounce@unicode.org X-original-sender: Peter.Nugent@Sun.COM Precedence: bulk Reply-to: cldr-users@unicode.org X-list: cldr-users Don pls file a bug at : http://www.unicode.org/cldr/bugs/locale-bugs with the details of what you would like to see and it will be addressed in due course thx Peter Don Osborn wrote On 01/05/07 01:53,: > Probably I'm missing it, but I was looking without success for a simple list > or table on the CLDR pages showing the locales filed by language (& > country). There are comparison charts, block-lists of languages and of > countries (separately), and files to download, but apparently no simple > summary that lets you see at a glance what is and isn't filed. Such a list > or table might most appropriately have some additional info of course, but > I'm looking for something to refer people to for basic info. TIA. > > Don > > > From rick@unicode.org Thu Jan 11 15:54:35 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list cldr-users); Thu, 11 Jan 2007 16:00:50 -0600 (CST) Received: from izanami (c-67-188-204-169.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [67.188.204.169]) by unicode.org (8.13.4/8.12.11) with SMTP id l0BLsEoJ019810; Thu, 11 Jan 2007 15:54:14 -0600 Message-Id: <200701112154.l0BLsEoJ019810@unicode.org> To: unicode@unicode.org Subject: Public Review Issue Update: #96, "Allowing Joiner Characters in Identifiers" In-Reply-To: <200701111913.l0BJDsT09795@birdie.sybase.com> Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 13:54:15 -0800 From: Rick McGowan received: by Apple.Mailer (2.95.2) X-archive-position: 11 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: cldr-users-bounce@unicode.org Errors-to: cldr-users-bounce@unicode.org X-original-sender: rick@unicode.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: cldr-users@unicode.org X-list: cldr-users The text of the background document for Public Review Issue #96, "Allowing Joiner Characters in Identifiers" (http://www.unicode.org/review/pr-96.html) has been modified for clarity. This PRI affects the use of ZWJ and ZWNJ in identifiers and may be relevant in a variety of contexts, including such areas as international domain names for Arabic, Persian, and languages of India such as Hindi and Malayalam. Any feedback on this PRI should be provided before January 30, so that it can be considered at the subsequent UTC meeting. Regards, Rick McGowan Unicode, Inc. From Yuriko.Yamasaki@Sun.COM Thu Jan 11 21:15:21 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list cldr-users); Thu, 11 Jan 2007 23:40:38 -0600 (CST) Received: from nwk-ea-fw-1.sun.com (nwk-ea-fw-1.sun.com [192.18.42.249]) by unicode.org (8.13.4/8.12.11) with ESMTP id l0C3FK1s027447 for ; Thu, 11 Jan 2007 21:15:20 -0600 Received: from d1-sfbay-09.sun.com ([192.18.39.119]) by nwk-ea-fw-1.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id l0C3FFJb017261 for ; Thu, 11 Jan 2007 19:15:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from conversion-daemon.d1-sfbay-09.sun.com by d1-sfbay-09.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) id <0JBQ00701JNS2P00@d1-sfbay-09.sun.com> (original mail from Yuriko.Yamasaki@Sun.COM) for cldr-users@unicode.org; Thu, 11 Jan 2007 19:15:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.32.83.51] by d1-sfbay-09.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTPSA id <0JBQ008OTJPF1Y42@d1-sfbay-09.sun.com> for cldr-users@unicode.org; Thu, 11 Jan 2007 19:15:15 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 19:15:14 -0800 From: Yuriko Yamasaki Subject: timeFormats pattan data regressed from 1.3 to 1.4 (and 1.4.1) for en_SG.xml ? To: cldr-users@unicode.org Message-id: <45A6FD42.8000403@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-archive-position: 12 X-Approved-By: root@unicode.org X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: cldr-users-bounce@unicode.org Errors-to: cldr-users-bounce@unicode.org X-original-sender: Yuriko.Yamasaki@Sun.COM Precedence: bulk Reply-to: cldr-users@unicode.org X-list: cldr-users Hi. Is the timeFormats pattern data regressed from 1.3 to 1.4 for en_SG.xml? In 1.3, I see the following timeFormat pattern data without "draft" attribute. I assumed they were the approved data: * a hh:mm:ss * a hh:mm:ss * a hh:mm * a hh:mm Each of these was followed by another with alt="proposed" draft="true" with different pattern value. In 1.4 and 1.4.1, the same data show as the following: * following above . Does this mean these time format pattern data previously approved by the technical committee is now disapproved in the current version? I also see the similar things in dateFormat pattern in the same file. Your advise will be greatly appreciated. Kind regards, Yuriko ------- SUN Microsystems Java i18n From Peter.Nugent@Sun.COM Tue Jan 16 10:07:26 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list cldr-users); Tue, 16 Jan 2007 10:07:26 -0600 (CST) Received: from gmp-ea-fw-1.sun.com (gmp-ea-fw-1.sun.com [192.18.1.36]) by unicode.org (8.13.4/8.12.11) with ESMTP id l0GG7PRD028101 for ; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 10:07:26 -0600 Received: from d1-emea-09.sun.com ([192.18.2.119]) by gmp-ea-fw-1.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id l0GG7JRZ016453 for ; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 16:07:19 GMT Received: from conversion-daemon.d1-emea-09.sun.com by d1-emea-09.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) id <0JBY00801WTU4X00@d1-emea-09.sun.com> (original mail from Peter.Nugent@Sun.COM) for cldr-users@unicode.org; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 16:07:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from [129.156.220.17] by d1-emea-09.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTPSA id <0JBY00MPCY3T05WC@d1-emea-09.sun.com> for cldr-users@unicode.org; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 16:07:05 +0000 (GMT) Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 16:07:05 +0000 From: Peter.Nugent@Sun.COM Subject: Re: timeFormats pattan data regressed from 1.3 to 1.4 (and 1.4.1) for en_SG.xml ? In-reply-to: <45A6FD42.8000403@sun.com> To: cldr-users@unicode.org Message-id: <45ACF829.6010700@Sun.COM> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, it, en References: <45A6FD42.8000403@sun.com> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; SunOS sun4u; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20060120 X-archive-position: 13 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: cldr-users-bounce@unicode.org Errors-to: cldr-users-bounce@unicode.org X-original-sender: Peter.Nugent@Sun.COM Precedence: bulk Reply-to: cldr-users@unicode.org X-list: cldr-users looking at cvs logs this change happened after data was checked in from the survey tool during 1.4. Steven, can you shed any light on this ? revision 1.37 date: 2006-06-13 19:25:11 +0000; author: srloomis; state: Exp; lines: +10 -19 cldrbug 966: checkin of SurveyTool data ============================================================================= cvs diff -r1.37 -r1.36 en_SG.xml Unauthorized Access Prohibited Violators will be Prosecuted! ============================== This session is being logged! ============================== Index: en_SG.xml =================================================================== RCS file: /home/cvsroot/cldr/common/main/en_SG.xml,v retrieving revision 1.37 retrieving revision 1.36 diff -r1.37 -r1.36 5,6c5,6 < < --- > > 16c16,17 < dd MMMM yyyy --- > dd MMMM yyyy > EEEE, dd MMMM yyyy 21c22,23 < dd MMM yyyy --- > dd MMM yyyy > dd MMMM yyyy 26c28,29 < dd-MMM-yy --- > dd-MMM-yy > dd MMM yyyy 31c34,35 < dd/MM/yy --- > dd/MM/yy > dd/MM/yyyy 38c42,43 < a hh:mm:ss --- > a hh:mm:ss > h:mm:ss a z 43c48,49 < a hh:mm:ss --- > a hh:mm:ss > h:mm:ss a z 48c54,55 < a hh:mm --- > a hh:mm > h:mm:ss a 53c60,61 < a hh:mm --- > a hh:mm > h:mm a 88a97 > Yuriko Yamasaki wrote On 01/12/07 03:15,: > Hi. > > Is the timeFormats pattern data regressed from 1.3 to 1.4 for en_SG.xml? > In 1.3, I see the following timeFormat pattern data without "draft" > attribute. I assumed they were the approved data: > > * a > hh:mm:ss > * a > hh:mm:ss > * a > hh:mm > * a > hh:mm > > Each of these was followed by another with > alt="proposed" draft="true" with different pattern value. > In 1.4 and 1.4.1, the same data show as the following: > > * draft="unconfirmed>a > hh:mm:ss > * draft="unconfirmed>a > hh:mm:ss > * draft="unconfirmed>a hh:mm > * draft="unconfirmed>a hh:mm > > The data is still the same showing the same time format; however, now it > has draft="unconfirmed" tag while the previous version did not have the > draft tag. There is no more following above > . Does this mean these time format pattern data previously > approved by the technical committee is now disapproved in the current > version? I also see the similar things in dateFormat pattern in the same > file. > > Your advise will be greatly appreciated. > Kind regards, Yuriko > > ------- > SUN Microsystems > Java i18n > > > > From rick@unicode.org Tue Jan 16 11:09:18 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list cldr-users); Tue, 16 Jan 2007 11:21:58 -0600 (CST) Received: from izanami (c-67-188-204-169.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [67.188.204.169]) by unicode.org (8.13.4/8.12.11) with SMTP id l0GH8vjI013489; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 11:09:01 -0600 Message-Id: <200701161709.l0GH8vjI013489@unicode.org> To: unicode@unicode.org Subject: New Public Review Issue: #101, External Link Sign Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 09:08:58 -0800 From: Rick McGowan received: by Apple.Mailer (2.95.2) X-archive-position: 14 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: cldr-users-bounce@unicode.org Errors-to: cldr-users-bounce@unicode.org X-original-sender: rick@unicode.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: cldr-users@unicode.org X-list: cldr-users The Unicode Technical Committee has posted a new issue for public review and comment. Details are on the following web page: http://www.unicode.org/review/ Review periods for the new items close on January 31, 2007. Please see the page for links to discussion and relevant documents. Briefly, the new issue is: #101 Proposal to Encode an External Link Sign The UTC has received a proposal to encode an EXTERNAL LINK SIGN as a character. The proposed symbol marks external links within web pages (i.e. links which lead to another site, contrary to internal links which lead to another page within the same site or domain). The submitted proposal itself is available for review, and some detailed questions for reviewers are presented in the background document. If you have comments for official UTC consideration, please post them by submitting your comments through our feedback & reporting page: http://www.unicode.org/reporting.html If you wish to discuss issues on the Unicode mail list, then please use the following link to subscribe (if necessary). Please be aware that discussion comments on the Unicode mail list are not automatically recorded as input to the UTC. You must use the reporting link above to generate comments for UTC consideration. http://www.unicode.org/consortium/distlist.html Regards, Rick McGowan Unicode, Inc. From rick@unicode.org Tue Jan 16 11:12:22 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list cldr-users); Tue, 16 Jan 2007 11:24:21 -0600 (CST) Received: from izanami (c-67-188-204-169.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [67.188.204.169]) by unicode.org (8.13.4/8.12.11) with SMTP id l0GHC8ug016605; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 11:12:08 -0600 Message-Id: <200701161712.l0GHC8ug016605@unicode.org> To: unicode@unicode.org Subject: New Public Review Issue: #102, Proposed Update UAX #15 Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 09:12:09 -0800 From: Rick McGowan received: by Apple.Mailer (2.95.2) X-archive-position: 15 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: cldr-users-bounce@unicode.org Errors-to: cldr-users-bounce@unicode.org X-original-sender: rick@unicode.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: cldr-users@unicode.org X-list: cldr-users The Unicode Technical Committee has posted a new issue for public review and comment. Details are on the following web page: http://www.unicode.org/review/ Review periods for the new items close on February 5, 2007. Please see the page for links to discussion and relevant documents. Briefly, the new issue is: #102 Proposed Update to UAX #15, Unicode Normalization Forms There is a Proposed Update to UAX #15, which specifies a new Normalization Process for Stabilized Strings. The key concept is that for a given normalization form, once a Unicode string has been successfully normalized according to that process, it will never change if subsequently normalized again, in any version of Unicode, past or future. This definition depends on an anticipated further tightening of the Unicode Stability Policies such that normalization of assigned characters will not change in future versions of Unicode. Details are in the proposed update itself. Please send in any feedback on this update by February 5th, 2007. If you have comments for official UTC consideration, please post them by submitting your comments through our feedback & reporting page: http://www.unicode.org/reporting.html If you wish to discuss issues on the Unicode mail list, then please use the following link to subscribe (if necessary). Please be aware that discussion comments on the Unicode mail list are not automatically recorded as input to the UTC. You must use the reporting link above to generate comments for UTC consideration. http://www.unicode.org/consortium/distlist.html Regards, Rick McGowan Unicode, Inc. From rick@unicode.org Tue Jan 16 11:40:12 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list cldr-users); Tue, 16 Jan 2007 11:43:18 -0600 (CST) Received: from izanami (c-67-188-204-169.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [67.188.204.169]) by unicode.org (8.13.4/8.12.11) with SMTP id l0GGmk4A029072; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 10:48:50 -0600 Message-Id: <200701161648.l0GGmk4A029072@unicode.org> To: unicode@unicode.org Subject: New Public Review Issue: #101, External Link Sign Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 08:48:47 -0800 From: Rick McGowan received: by Apple.Mailer (2.95.2) X-archive-position: 16 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: cldr-users-bounce@unicode.org Errors-to: cldr-users-bounce@unicode.org X-original-sender: rick@unicode.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: cldr-users@unicode.org X-list: cldr-users The Unicode Technical Committee has posted a new issue for public review and comment. Details are on the following web page: http://www.unicode.org/review/ Review periods for the new items close on January 31, 2007. Please see the page for links to discussion and relevant documents. Briefly, the new issue is: #101 Proposal to Encode an External Link Sign The UTC has received a proposal to encode an EXTERNAL LINK SIGN as a character. The proposed symbol marks external links within web pages (i.e. links which lead to another site, contrary to internal links which lead to another page within the same site or domain). The submitted proposal itself is available for review, and some detailed questions for reviewers are presented in the background document. If you have comments for official UTC consideration, please post them by submitting your comments through our feedback & reporting page: http://www.unicode.org/reporting.html If you wish to discuss issues on the Unicode mail list, then please use the following link to subscribe (if necessary). Please be aware that discussion comments on the Unicode mail list are not automatically recorded as input to the UTC. You must use the reporting link above to generate comments for UTC consideration. http://www.unicode.org/consortium/distlist.html Regards, Rick McGowan Unicode, Inc. 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From rick@unicode.org Thu Jan 25 16:39:20 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list cldr-users); Thu, 25 Jan 2007 16:42:51 -0600 (CST) Received: from izanami (c-67-188-204-169.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [67.188.204.169]) by unicode.org (8.13.4/8.12.11) with SMTP id l0PMdE0v016861; Thu, 25 Jan 2007 16:39:15 -0600 Message-Id: <200701252239.l0PMdE0v016861@unicode.org> To: unicode@unicode.org Subject: New Public Review Issue: #103, Proposed Update UAX #29 Text Boundaries Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 14:39:15 -0800 From: Rick McGowan received: by Apple.Mailer (2.95.2) X-archive-position: 18 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: cldr-users-bounce@unicode.org Errors-to: cldr-users-bounce@unicode.org X-original-sender: rick@unicode.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: cldr-users@unicode.org X-list: cldr-users The Unicode Technical Committee has posted a new issue for public review and comment. Details are on the following web page: http://www.unicode.org/review/ Review period for the new item closes on February 5, 2007. Please see the page for links to discussion and relevant documents. Briefly, the new issue is: PRI #103 Proposed Update UAX #29 Text Boundaries http://www.unicode.org/reports/tr29/tr29-12.html The proposed update to UAX #29 fixes some items that were noted in proof for Unicode 5.0. It makes changes in the definition of "Sp" and and some break conditions in rules SB8 and SB11. Public feedback is invited. If you have comments for official UTC consideration, please post them by submitting your comments through our feedback & reporting page: http://www.unicode.org/reporting.html If you wish to discuss issues on the Unicode mail list, then please use the following link to subscribe (if necessary). Please be aware that discussion comments on the Unicode mail list are not automatically recorded as input to the UTC. You must use the reporting link above to generate comments for UTC consideration. http://www.unicode.org/consortium/distlist.html Regards, Rick McGowan Unicode, Inc. From rick@unicode.org Thu Jan 25 16:40:46 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list cldr-users); Thu, 25 Jan 2007 16:43:20 -0600 (CST) Received: from izanami (c-67-188-204-169.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [67.188.204.169]) by unicode.org (8.13.4/8.12.11) with SMTP id l0PMeZvO017394; Thu, 25 Jan 2007 16:40:35 -0600 Message-Id: <200701252240.l0PMeZvO017394@unicode.org> To: unicode@unicode.org Subject: New Public Review Issue: #104, Proposed Update UAX #31, Identifier and Pattern Syntax Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 14:40:35 -0800 From: Rick McGowan received: by Apple.Mailer (2.95.2) X-archive-position: 19 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: cldr-users-bounce@unicode.org Errors-to: cldr-users-bounce@unicode.org X-original-sender: rick@unicode.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: cldr-users@unicode.org X-list: cldr-users The Unicode Technical Committee has posted a new issue for public review and comment. Details are on the following web page: http://www.unicode.org/review/ Review period for the new item closes on February 5, 2007. Please see the page for links to discussion and relevant documents. Briefly, the new issue is: PRI #104 Proposed Update to UAX #31: Identifier and Pattern Syntax http://www.unicode.org/reports/tr31/tr31-8.html The proposed update of UAX #31 has changes that discuss the issue of canonical equivalence of identifiers. Public feedback is invited. If you have comments for official UTC consideration, please post them by submitting your comments through our feedback & reporting page: http://www.unicode.org/reporting.html If you wish to discuss issues on the Unicode mail list, then please use the following link to subscribe (if necessary). Please be aware that discussion comments on the Unicode mail list are not automatically recorded as input to the UTC. You must use the reporting link above to generate comments for UTC consideration. http://www.unicode.org/consortium/distlist.html Regards, Rick McGowan Unicode, Inc. From rick@unicode.org Tue Jan 30 17:52:43 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list cldr-users); Tue, 30 Jan 2007 17:58:07 -0600 (CST) Received: from izanami (c-67-188-204-169.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [67.188.204.169]) by unicode.org (8.13.4/8.12.11) with SMTP id l0UNqciB015685; Tue, 30 Jan 2007 17:52:38 -0600 Message-Id: <200701302352.l0UNqciB015685@unicode.org> To: unicode@unicode.org Subject: Public Review Issue #75: UTR #25 draft updated Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 15:52:38 -0800 From: Rick McGowan received: by Apple.Mailer (2.95.2) X-archive-position: 20 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: cldr-users-bounce@unicode.org Errors-to: cldr-users-bounce@unicode.org X-original-sender: rick@unicode.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: cldr-users@unicode.org X-list: cldr-users The draft for Proposed Update UTR #25, Unicode Support for Mathematics, has been updated. Please see the Public Review page for details: http://www.unicode.org/review/ The updated draft is available here: http://www.unicode.org/reports/tr25/tr25-8.html Regards, Rick McGowan Unicode, Inc. From yury.tarasievich@gmail.com Wed Jan 31 01:46:38 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list cldr-users); Wed, 31 Jan 2007 01:46:38 -0600 (CST) Received: from nz-out-0506.google.com (nz-out-0506.google.com [64.233.162.235]) by unicode.org (8.13.4/8.12.11) with ESMTP id l0V7kc16016369 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 2007 01:46:38 -0600 Received: by nz-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id s18so131151nze for ; Tue, 30 Jan 2007 23:46:38 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=EQ3PCm/zfhjkfQH6YkLQH9M6cM88qlO6XZdLdL3ze5XCl2S5UG0H2oEuJSwLz3Dt0p7QtgKel99Ew/6rsWWGIR63zKW2+zpBYu8LPY0QEpMPjnopCMq1+3cOIjotjQyEzhZXF0yQiulbF/Rt6dMV/7MIycLw+xPQgnVJEC72Vzc= Received: by 10.114.157.1 with SMTP id f1mr31183wae.1170229597763; Tue, 30 Jan 2007 23:46:37 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.179.6 with HTTP; Tue, 30 Jan 2007 23:46:37 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <9f3c41b10701302346y2d50969eqbb037f340f9efa20@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 09:46:37 +0200 From: "Yury Tarasievich" To: cldr-users@unicode.org Subject: feedback impossible MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-archive-position: 21 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: cldr-users-bounce@unicode.org Errors-to: cldr-users-bounce@unicode.org X-original-sender: yury.tarasievich@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: cldr-users@unicode.org X-list: cldr-users It's impossible to report the errors in the CLDR data. The pattern is as follows: * The primary link leads to an error reporting form, which one fills, and that would be it. * However, a week later or so, the e-mail arrives telling this bug reporting system is somehow inappropriate for reporting the bugs. One has to apply for some special type of account. * One applies for a said account, and then nothing happens. Meanwhile, the CLDR carries an erroneous data, from release to release. From srl@icu-project.org Wed Jan 31 08:44:19 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list cldr-users); Wed, 31 Jan 2007 08:44:19 -0600 (CST) Received: from v.icu-project.org (v.icu-project.org [161.58.210.87]) by unicode.org (8.13.4/8.12.11) with ESMTP id l0VEiJNT021889 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 2007 08:44:19 -0600 Received: from monkey.sbay.org ([216.27.178.44] helo=[10.0.0.103]) by v.icu-project.org with esmtpa (Exim 4.63 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1HCGh8-00042P-Rr for cldr-users@unicode.org; Wed, 31 Jan 2007 14:44:19 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) In-Reply-To: <9f3c41b10701302346y2d50969eqbb037f340f9efa20@mail.gmail.com> References: <9f3c41b10701302346y2d50969eqbb037f340f9efa20@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Steven R. Loomis" Subject: Re: feedback impossible Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 06:44:15 -0800 To: cldr-users@unicode.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-archive-position: 22 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: cldr-users-bounce@unicode.org Errors-to: cldr-users-bounce@unicode.org X-original-sender: srl@icu-project.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: cldr-users@unicode.org X-list: cldr-users Yury, It is not impossible, it is just late in re-opening. I am working on the Survey Tool so that it will be open. You filed your bug on 11th January 2007. CLDR 1.4 was released on july 17th, 2006. So, the errors you noticed will not be carried from release to release. I am sorry that you are finding this frustrating. We definitely look forward to taking in your corrections to Belarusian. Regards, Steven R. Loomis ( for the CLDR project ) On 30 Jan 2007, at 23:46, Yury Tarasievich wrote: > It's impossible to report the errors in the CLDR data. The pattern is > as follows: > > * The primary link leads to an error reporting form, which one fills, > and that would be it. > * However, a week later or so, the e-mail arrives telling this bug > reporting system is somehow inappropriate for reporting the bugs. One > has to apply for some special type of account. > * One applies for a said account, and then nothing happens. > > Meanwhile, the CLDR carries an erroneous data, from release to > release. > From yury.tarasievich@gmail.com Wed Jan 31 08:54:42 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list cldr-users); Wed, 31 Jan 2007 08:54:42 -0600 (CST) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.245]) by unicode.org (8.13.4/8.12.11) with ESMTP id l0VEsfRQ028242 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 2007 08:54:41 -0600 Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id d18so132768and for ; Wed, 31 Jan 2007 06:54:41 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=j1r2VqyBpa/xyuO0NUZWkPBdP9ChLqh6BAMGUruIbKFkBeYO10e29Dbhs1jhURavIY7qZIqN3nuEmsgo1qje+uhmMOvpD6UMSQy07GVS0p0KRXjgnt//7SK6wiQuJHuabNp0BJvBjWiFxbiyz6uyy4k83WIeQfRiLwvGhI4bzN0= Received: by 10.114.169.2 with SMTP id r2mr40520wae.1170255280836; Wed, 31 Jan 2007 06:54:40 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.179.6 with HTTP; Wed, 31 Jan 2007 06:54:40 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <9f3c41b10701310654t40a88838w8920f58b1d5ea6b3@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 16:54:40 +0200 From: "Yury Tarasievich" To: cldr-users@unicode.org Subject: Re: feedback impossible In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <9f3c41b10701302346y2d50969eqbb037f340f9efa20@mail.gmail.com> X-archive-position: 23 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: cldr-users-bounce@unicode.org Errors-to: cldr-users-bounce@unicode.org X-original-sender: yury.tarasievich@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: cldr-users@unicode.org X-list: cldr-users Not quite so. This time, I filed the bugs w/r to the 1.4.1, and I ran the similar circuit about year ago (? was it 1.3?), too. As I see it from here, problem isn't in even late opening, it's in disrupted workflow somewhere at unicode (?). From srl@icu-project.org Wed Jan 31 09:09:57 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list cldr-users); Wed, 31 Jan 2007 09:09:57 -0600 (CST) Received: from v.icu-project.org (v.icu-project.org [161.58.210.87]) by unicode.org (8.13.4/8.12.11) with ESMTP id l0VF9vAK008298 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 2007 09:09:57 -0600 Received: from monkey.sbay.org ([216.27.178.44] helo=[10.0.0.103]) by v.icu-project.org with esmtpa (Exim 4.63 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1HCH5w-0005AO-FR for cldr-users@unicode.org; Wed, 31 Jan 2007 15:09:56 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) In-Reply-To: <9f3c41b10701310654t40a88838w8920f58b1d5ea6b3@mail.gmail.com> References: <9f3c41b10701302346y2d50969eqbb037f340f9efa20@mail.gmail.com> <9f3c41b10701310654t40a88838w8920f58b1d5ea6b3@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <61597FAE-AA1E-487C-A968-1E752A602C27@icu-project.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Steven R. Loomis" Subject: Re: feedback impossible Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 07:09:52 -0800 To: cldr-users@unicode.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-archive-position: 24 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: cldr-users-bounce@unicode.org Errors-to: cldr-users-bounce@unicode.org X-original-sender: srl@icu-project.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: cldr-users@unicode.org X-list: cldr-users 1.4.1 was not open to general changes - it was for specific changes such as RS and ME. (serbia, montenegro) I don't see the older bugs. But in any event, when the ST opens, you will be emailed, and given the opportunity to enter data. If you'd like, I can set your account up now and email you the password. But, it won't accept changes until the process opens. The workflow is not disrupted - it's just late. -s On 31 Jan 2007, at 06:54, Yury Tarasievich wrote: > Not quite so. This time, I filed the bugs w/r to the 1.4.1, and I ran > the similar circuit about year ago (? was it 1.3?), too. > > As I see it from here, problem isn't in even late opening, it's in > disrupted workflow somewhere at unicode (?). > From yury.tarasievich@gmail.com Wed Jan 31 15:48:39 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list cldr-users); Wed, 31 Jan 2007 15:48:39 -0600 (CST) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.243]) by unicode.org (8.13.4/8.12.11) with ESMTP id l0VLmcUR010939 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 2007 15:48:39 -0600 Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id d18so257500and for ; Wed, 31 Jan 2007 13:48:38 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=kTYuQwkf7U6lvhcpPNf96BaK10vtVBRgYyrGPSqDOz5dkTeD3XjZedyu+8aRjAG8azTiZZcqvkjNpBEmYRhSXFlfXnBQZxNkXVVfBef69Ti3rXapdZmB4f9OitqcdyZ0bd8AgA011JzJV87uDCyQxd8CjaqfX1UE0A0+iO4OpkE= Received: by 10.114.111.1 with SMTP id j1mr97091wac.1170280117898; Wed, 31 Jan 2007 13:48:37 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.179.6 with HTTP; Wed, 31 Jan 2007 13:48:37 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <9f3c41b10701311348g23bff880yf431b120036cb1a0@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 23:48:37 +0200 From: "Yury Tarasievich" To: cldr-users@unicode.org Subject: Re: feedback impossible In-Reply-To: <61597FAE-AA1E-487C-A968-1E752A602C27@icu-project.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <9f3c41b10701302346y2d50969eqbb037f340f9efa20@mail.gmail.com> <9f3c41b10701310654t40a88838w8920f58b1d5ea6b3@mail.gmail.com> <61597FAE-AA1E-487C-A968-1E752A602C27@icu-project.org> X-archive-position: 25 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: cldr-users-bounce@unicode.org Errors-to: cldr-users-bounce@unicode.org X-original-sender: yury.tarasievich@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: cldr-users@unicode.org X-list: cldr-users On 31/01/07, Steven R. Loomis wrote: > 1.4.1 was not open to general changes - it was for specific changes > such as RS and ME. (serbia, montenegro) > > I don't see the older bugs. But in any event, when the ST opens, you > will be emailed, and given the opportunity to enter data. ... I assure you, I distinctly remember using those web-form before, for same bugs, even. :) If the entered issues won't be lost, well, than I see no need to do anything out of order, either. Thanks. From mark.edward.davis@gmail.com Wed Jan 31 16:22:13 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list cldr-users); Wed, 31 Jan 2007 16:22:13 -0600 (CST) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.230]) by unicode.org (8.13.4/8.12.11) with ESMTP id l0VMMDjx022734 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 2007 16:22:13 -0600 Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i4so348338wra for ; Wed, 31 Jan 2007 14:22:13 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=t+/VMD5mIVQKiH7ffRdGVuDRlJA+MRs8/qrd33mKRDq8kcIwR9PMENbBwl9VFYJtGzNdghTbsYyXsDlIAy5qEl3s9kvTrnwtIZD+4DzG+nmw3bqQaw8ydpw3UOtgEn+NAiZEXc3p9m98+uhEx+3LzMRallIb4H6oZP/jmerlntw= Received: by 10.90.118.8 with SMTP id q8mr2013585agc.1170282133075; Wed, 31 Jan 2007 14:22:13 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.90.50.20 with HTTP; Wed, 31 Jan 2007 14:22:13 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <30b660a20701311422p267b7c52l47076a7cd04b338e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 14:22:13 -0800 From: "Mark Davis" To: cldr-users@unicode.org Subject: Re: feedback impossible In-Reply-To: <9f3c41b10701311348g23bff880yf431b120036cb1a0@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_2025_14629718.1170282133027" References: <9f3c41b10701302346y2d50969eqbb037f340f9efa20@mail.gmail.com> <9f3c41b10701310654t40a88838w8920f58b1d5ea6b3@mail.gmail.com> <61597FAE-AA1E-487C-A968-1E752A602C27@icu-project.org> <9f3c41b10701311348g23bff880yf431b120036cb1a0@mail.gmail.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: f39b0de902569462 X-archive-position: 26 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: cldr-users-bounce@unicode.org Errors-to: cldr-users-bounce@unicode.org X-original-sender: mark.davis@icu-project.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: cldr-users@unicode.org X-list: cldr-users ------=_Part_2025_14629718.1170282133027 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I think one thing we might do is email each of the reporters in the "returned-survey" group, with a message something like the following. Any thoughts? ---- In the past, you reported a problem that was put on hold until the survey tool was ready. The survey tool has begun the data entry phase, we'd very much appreciate it if you entered your proposed changes into the system with it. For your reference: - To start using the Survey tool, see the instuctions on: - http://www.unicode.org/cldr/wiki?SurveyToolHelp - You can see the bugs you submitted at: - http://www.unicode.org/cldr/bugs/locale-bugs/return-survey?expression= *yury.tarasievich* On 1/31/07, Yury Tarasievich wrote: > > On 31/01/07, Steven R. Loomis wrote: > > 1.4.1 was not open to general changes - it was for specific changes > > such as RS and ME. (serbia, montenegro) > > > > I don't see the older bugs. But in any event, when the ST opens, you > > will be emailed, and given the opportunity to enter data. > ... > I assure you, I distinctly remember using those web-form before, for > same bugs, even. :) If the entered issues won't be lost, well, than I > see no need to do anything out of order, either. > > Thanks. > > -- Mark ------=_Part_2025_14629718.1170282133027 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I think one thing we might do is email each of the reporters in the "returned-survey" group, with a message something like the following. Any thoughts?

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In the past, you reported a problem that was put on hold until the survey tool was ready. The survey tool has begun the data entry phase, we'd very much appreciate it if you entered your proposed changes into the system with it.

For your reference:

On 1/31/07, Yury Tarasievich <yury.tarasievich@gmail.com> wrote:
On 31/01/07, Steven R. Loomis <srl@icu-project.org> wrote:
> 1.4.1 was not open to general changes - it was for specific changes
> such as RS and ME. (serbia, montenegro)
>
> I don't see the older bugs.  But in any event, when the ST opens, you
> will be emailed, and given the opportunity to enter data.
...
I assure you, I distinctly remember using those web-form before, for
same bugs, even. :) If the entered issues won't be lost, well, than I
see no need to do anything out of order, either.

Thanks.




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Mark ------=_Part_2025_14629718.1170282133027--