Sent: Saturday, April 11, 1998 8:56 AM


Subject: (SC22WG20.2194) DS comments to N2668

Here is, for your information, the DS comments to N2668.


Keld Simonsen


Danish Standards Association comments to SC22 N2668.

DS can agree to the recommendation 1, but only in the C+ version. The "+" mode of operation is beneficial to JTC 1 as the new technical direction can provide standards and guidelines to all of JTC 1 standardisation.

An alternative to the C+ mode of operation is to not make a new technical direction with the title of cultural adaptablility. For example the internationalization or cultural adaptability side of the proposed technical direction is very much a portablility concern, as the issue is how to make portable applications allowing cultural diversability. The cultural adaptability thus naturally leans itself to other portablility issues with is currently within the JTC 1 organization mostly handled by SC22.

A mode of B+ or A+ would be very damaging to the IT enablement of cultural adaptability issues, given that this would as currently proposed lead to a separation of SC22 from its WG20 on internationalization. The cultural adaptablilty issue is in JTC 1 very focused on enabling cultural dependent behaviour of applications in IT, and the key to success is here that there be tools for smooth integration of cultural adaptability issues in the application development tools, and that these to be supported by adequate diverse cultural data. As applications are mainly developed in programming languages it is vital for the IT enablement that expertise be available in integration of the cultural enablement tools in the field of diverse programming languages. Also it is important that all aspects of cultural adaptability can be handled - not just the character set and keyboards issues, which are currently well understood and where specifications are already available in standards like ISO/IEC 14651 and 14652. Other areas, including some quite new issues, are monetary information, telephone number and postal address handling, paper sizes, and hyphenation, and the expertise to draw on in the IT enablement process lies outside of the proposed TD, and in some cases even outside JTC 1. An organisation handling cultural adaptablity thus needs to have a very broad range of communication partners, and should not be seen as having special ties to separate areas of the field such as character sets or keyboards.

DS can agree to recommendation 2.

On recommendation 3 it can be noted that with respect to cultural adaptability the current definitions on internationalization as expressed in TR 11017 "Framework for internationalization" already allows for interoperability among different cultures.

With respect to recommendation 4, DS notes that SC22 is the natural home for providing standards for IT enablement of cultural adaptability issues, as argued above in our comments on recommendation 1. SC22/WG20 should thus stay in SC22, and the work undertaken by WG20 should stay and be further developed by WG20 for the benefit of the whole of JTC 1.

DS can agree to recommendation 5.

On recommendation 6, DS finds it vital that JTC 1 standards primarily refer to other ISO and IEC standards. This is the primary way to maintaining the integrity, the high quality, and visibility of ISO/IEC standards. Where necessary work from outside the formal standardisation bodies should be employed and incorporated into formal standards.