L2/07-225R2

Approved Minutes of the UTC 112 / L2 209 Joint Meeting
Redmond, WA -- August 6 - 10, 2007
Hosted by Microsoft

UTC #112 Agenda
Revision date: June 28, 2011


Wednesday, August 8, 2007

Administrative — Roll Call (A.1)

PRESENT: Adobe, Apple, Google, HP, IBM, Justsystem (proxy), Microsoft, Sybase, UC Berkeley, India.
NOT PRESENT: Basis Tech, Denic, India MIT, Monotype Imaging, Oracle, SAP, Yahoo, Tamil Nadu.
10 members represented
Quorum 8.5

Administrative — Calendar Update (A.6)

UTC #116 / L2 #213 - August 12-15, 2008, Redmond, host, Microsoft

Public Review Issue — Unicode Normalization Forms (B.11.1)

[112-A1] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Extend the review date for PRI #102 to October 10,2007. [L2/07-250, L2/07-047]

Public Review Issue — Line Breaking Properties (B.11.4)

[112-A2] Action Item for Andy Heninger, Editorial Committee: Incorporate the text of L2/07-209R into proposed update Unicode Standard Annex #14: Unicode Line Breaking Algorithm.

[112-A3] Action Item for Andy Heninger, Editorial Committee: Incorporate Ken Whistler's feedback from L2/07-250 into proposed update Unicode Standard Annex #14: Unicode Line Breaking Algorithm. [L2/07-253]

[112-A4] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Extend the review date for Public Review Issue #105 to October 10, 2007.

Public Review Issue — Script property Values (B.11.5)

[112-C1] Consensus: Document in Unicode Standard Annex #24: Unicode Script Property. the characters in L2/07-249 (Public Review Issue #107) as having anomalous script assignments. Describe some of the implications for usage. [L2/07-250]

[112-A5] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Update Proposed Update Unicode Standard Annex #24: Unicode Script Property. according to consensus 112-C1, based on Public Review Issue #107 and L2/07-249. If the editorial committee finds other anomalous characters they can be added to the list.

[112-A6] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Close Public Review Issue #107 noting that no script property changes were made as a result of this public review issue. [L2/07-249]

Unicode Technical Reports — Unicode Regular Expressions (B.12.2)

[112-A7] Action Item for Mark Davis, Markus Scherer: Prepare a proposal for clarifying how a regular expression engine should deal with matching Unicode sets in Unicode Technical Standard #18: Unicode Regular Expressions. [L2/07-250]

Public Review Issue — Identifier and Pattern Syntax (B.11.3)

[112-C2] Consensus: (1) Change PU Unicode Standard Annex #31: Unicode Identifier and Pattern Syntax so as to allow ZWJ/NJ in identifiers without reference to script. (2) Move the text about restrictions on ZWJ/NJ to Unicode Technical Standard #39:Unicode Security Mechanisms, rephrase in terms of visual distinction, and add scripts in response to feedback from India and others. [L2/07-255, L2/07-048]

[112-A8] Action Item for Mark Davis, Editorial Committee: Update Proposed Update Unicode Standard Annex #31: Unicode Identifier and Pattern Syntax to reflect concensus 112-C2[L2/07-255, L2/07-048]

[112-A9] Action Item for Mark Davis, Editorial Committee: Update Unicode Technical Standard #39:Unicode Security Mechanisms to reflect concensus 112-C2, move the text about restrictions on ZWJ/NJ to Unicode Technical Standard #39:Unicode Security Mechanisms from Unicode Standard Annex #31: Unicode Identifier and Pattern Syntax. [L2/07-255], [L2/07-048]

[112-A10] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Respond to Daniel Yacob regarding document L2/07-194 that the committee decided to take no action.

Public Review Issue — Text Boundaries (B.11.2 )

[112-C3] Consensus: Change the wordbreak property of U+2018 LEFT SINGLE QUOTATION MARK to "midletter" in Unicode 5.1.0. [L2/07-147, L2/07-250]

[112-A11] Action Item for Mark Davis, Editorial Committee: Change the wordbreak property of U+2018 LEFT SINGLE QUOTATION MARK to "midletter" in WordbreakProperty.txt and update table 3 in Unicode Standard Annex #29: Unicode Text Segmentation for Unicode 5.1.0. [L2/07-147, L2/07-250]

[112-A12] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Reply to Philippe Verdy regarding his proposal in L2/07-250  that it was accepted for Unicode 5.1.0. [L2/07-147]

[112-C4] Consensus: (1) Add a new section to Unicode Standard Annex #29: Unicode Text Segmentation defining the concept of an "extended base character" that includes base characters or hangul syllables. See D118. (2) Introduce the concept of an "extended combining character sequence" that is a superset of combining character sequence and default grapheme cluster. [L2/07-266]

[112-A13] Action Item for Mark Davis, Editorial Committee: Add information from consensus 112-C4 regarding "extended base character" and "extended combining character sequence" to the update of Unicode Standard Annex #29: Unicode Text Segmentation.


Thursday, August 9, 2007

PRESENT: Adobe, Apple, Google, HP, IBM, Justsystem (proxy), Microsoft, Sybase, UC Berkeley, India.
NOT PRESENT: Basis Tech, Denic, India MIT, Monotype Imaging, Oracle, SAP, Yahoo, Tamil Nadu.
10 members represented

IRG — Extension C ( B.3)

[112-C5] Consensus: Accept the removal of 67 CJK characters from CJK Extension C in PDAM5 and request the re-encoding of the remaining set to be contiguous. [L2/07-245]

[112-A14] Action Item for Michel Suignard: Add comment "accept the removal of 67 CJK characters from CJK Extension C in PDAM5 and request the re-encoding of the remaining set to be contiguous " to ballot comments for PDAM 5. [L2/07-245]

[112-A15] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Update the pipeline to reflect removal of 67 CJK characters from CJK Extension C. [L2/07-245]

[112-A16] Action Item for John Jenkins: Convey to Dr. Lu and the IRG the request to re-encode CJK Ext C after removal of 67 characters. See consensus 112-C5.  [L2/07-245]

[112-A17] Action Item for Michel Suignard: Add a comment that the UTC supports glyph changes for 14 CJK characters to ballot comments on PDAM 5. [L2/07-244]

South Asian Script Subcommittee — Malayalam (B.15.2 )

[112-A18] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Update the names list annotations for U+0D7C MALAYALAM LETTER CHILLU RR and U+0D7D MALAYALAM LETTER CHILLU L based on document L2/07-272.

[112-A19] Action Item for Cibu Johny: Provide other independent evidence for Malayalam chillu ya. [L2/07-272]

South Asian Script Subcommittee — North Indic Number Forms (B.15.2)

[112-C6] Consensus: Update approval of the North Indic number forms based on the recommendations of the South Asian Subcommittee to change names, code positions, and create a new block U+A830..U+A83F Common Indic Number Forms, as specified in [L2/07-238].

[112-A20] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Update the pipeline to reflect approval of the North Indic number forms based on the recommendations of the South Asian Subcommittee to change names, code positions, and create new block Common Indic Number Forms at U+A830..U+A83F. [L2/07-238]

[112-A21] Action Item for Deborah Anderson, Anshuman Pandey: Create an updated proposal for encoding North Indic number forms, forward to WG2, and submit the font to the editor. [L2/07-238]

[112-A22] Action Item for Michel Suignard: Add consensus 112-C6 regarding North Indic number forms to the request for encoding in Amendment 5 or a future amendment. [L2/07-238]

South Asian Script Subcommittee — Bengali (B.15.2 )

[112-C7] Consensus: Accept U+09FB BENGALI GANDA MARK as documented in L2/07-192 for encoding in a future version of the standard.

[112-A23] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Update the pipeline to reflect acceptance of U+09FB BENGALI GANDA MARK for encoding in a future version of the standard. [L2/07-192]

[112-A24] Action Item for Michel Suignard: Add U+09FB BENGALI GANDA MARK to the document requesting encoding in Amendment 5 or a future amendment.

[112-A25] Action Item for Deborah Anderson, Anshuman Pandey: Create an updated version of L2/07-192, add an updated proposal summary form, forward to WG2, and submit the font to the editor.

South Asian Script Subcommittee — Devanagari (B.15.2 )

[112-A26] Action Item for Ken Whister: Add an annotation to the effect that the U+02BC MODIFIER LETTER APOSTROPHE is appropriate for the uses described in the document L2/06-373.

[112-A27] Action Item for Swaran Lata: Provide a draft update to the Devanagari block description to cover U+02BC MODIFIER LETTER APOSTROPHE as appropriate for the uses described in the document L2/06-373.

[112-C8] Consensus: Accept the text in South Asian Subcommittee report L2/07-272 on TACE-16 as the charter to guide future discussion by the South Asian Subcommittee on Tamil issues.

[112-A28] Action Item for Eric Muller: Inform the South Asian Subcommittee via its mail list of the consensus 112-C8 on TACE-16. [L2/07-272]

[112-A29] Action Item for Mark Davis: Respond to the India MIT and Tamil Nadu, correcting the Tamil report of the last UTC.

[112-A30] Action Item for Deborah Anderson, Anshuman Pandey: Revise the Kaithi document L2/07-199 to account for comments in the South Asian Subcommittee meeting and re-submit to the UTC for the next meeting. [L2/07-272]

Properties — Math Property Assignments (B.14.7)

[112-C9] Consensus: Add the characters listed in L2/07-261 to the "Other Math" property, for Unicode 5.1.

[112-A31] Action Item for Mark Davis: Update Proplist.txt as per consensus 112-C9 with the new 'Other Math" characters from L2/07-261.

Properties —  Burushaski Shaping Behavior (B.14.3.2)

[112-C10] Consensus: Give U+077A YEH BARREE WITH DIGIT TWO ABOVE and U+077B YEH BARREE WITH DIGIT THREE ABOVE the joining type "dual". Create a new joining group "Burushaski Yeh Barree" for these two characters. [L2/07-264]

[112-A32] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Update ArabicShaping.txt with new joining group "Burushaski Yeh Barree", and give U+077A YEH BARREE WITH DIGIT TWO ABOVE and U+077B YEH BARREE WITH DIGIT THREE ABOVE the joining type "dual". (Reflect consensus 112-C10. [ L2/06-149], [L2/07-264].

Properties — Script Consistency for Compatibility Greek Accents (B.14.2)

[112-A33] Action Item for Lisa Moore: Add B.14.2 to the agenda for the next meeting. [L2/07-202]

[112-A34] Action Item for Mark Davis: Evaluate the proposal L2/07-202 on the script consistency issue with Greek accents before the October 2007 UTC meeting.


Friday, August 10, 2007

PRESENT: Adobe, Apple, Google, IBM, Justsystem (proxy), Microsoft, Sybase, UC Berkeley, India.
NOT PRESENT: Basis Tech, Denic, India MIT, Monotype Imaging, Oracle, SAP, Yahoo, Tamil Nadu.
9 members represented

Properties — Undo Mirroring of Quote Marks (B.14.5)

[112-C11] Consensus: Issue a corrigendum changing the characters U+2018..U+201F and U+301D..U+301F to have the bidi mirroring property "false". [L2/07-241], [L2/07-273]

[112-A35] Action Item for Rick McGowan, Editorial Committee: Create Corrigendum #6 on changing the characters U+2018..U+201F and U+301D..U+301F to have the bidi mirroring property "false". Include affected data files in the corrigendum. [L2/07-241, L2/07-273]

[112-A36] Action Item for Ken Whistler, Mark Davis: Update UnicodeData.txt, DerivedBinaryProperties.txt, and BidiMirroring.txt in the beta directory ASAP. Include the affected data files in the Corrigendum #6 web page. [L2/07-241, L2/07-273]

[112-A37] Action Item for Michel Suignard: Add the change in bidi mirrored properties as per consensus 112-C11 to ballot comments on Amendment 4.

Symbols Subcommittee — Emoji (B.15.3)

[112-C12] Consensus: The UTC supports the work being done in the Symbols Subcommittee as documented in L2/07-274R.

Properties — Arabic Shaping Behavior (B.14.3.1 )

[112-A38] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Take recommendations for joining type in L2/07-221 into account when creating the data files for the repertoire added in amendment 4.

Script Subcommittee — Tangut (C.11)

[112-C13] Consensus: Accept 5910 Tangut characters from L2/07-143R in a new block Tangut at U+17000..U+1871F for encoding in a future version of the standard. [L2/07-229]

[112-A39] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Add 5910 Tangut characters from L2/07-143R to the pipeline. 112-C13.

[112-A40] Action Item for Richard Cook: Forward the Tangut proposal L2/07-143R, L2/07-229 and other documents to WG2 for consideration at the next meeting.

Script Subcommittee — Myanmar for Shan (C.6)

[112-C14] Consensus: Accept the repositioning of the Myanmar Shan characters shown in blue in L2/07-205 in the range U+1078..U+108F.

[112-A41] Action Item for Michel Suignard: Add a ballot comment on the changed positions of the Myanmar Shan characters shown in blue in L2/07-205 in the range U+1078.. U+108F to FPDAM 4.

[112-C15] Consensus: Accept the name change for U+108C MYANMAR SHAN COUNCIL TONE-4 to MYANMAR SHAN COUNCIL TONE-3. [L2/07-205]

[112-A42] Action Item for Michel Suignard: Add a ballot comment on changed name of U+108C MYANMAR SHAN COUNCIL TONE-4 to MYANMAR SHAN COUNCIL TONE-3. [L2/07-205]

[112-C16] Consensus: Accept 4 Shan letters, 1 Shan tone mark, 2 Shan symbols, and a set of 10 Shan digits, as shown in yellow in document L2/07-205, for encoding in a future version of the Unicode standard. [L2/07-205]

[112-A43] Action Item for Michel Suignard: Add 4 Shan letters, 1 Shan tone mark, 2 Shan symbols, and a set of 10 Shan digits, as shown in yellow in document L2/07-205, to the list of characters requested for encoding in a future amendment.

[112-A44] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Update pipeline to include Shan changes as in consensus 112-C16 (4 Shan letters, 1 Shan tone mark, 2 Shan symbols, and a set of 10 Shan digits, as shown in yellow in document L2/07-205).

Script Subcommittee — Imperial Aramaic Script (C.3.1)

[112-C17] Consensus: Accept 30 Imperial Aramaic characters with new block Imperial Aramaic at U+10840..U+1085F for encoding in a future version of the Unicode standard. [L2/07-197]

[112-A45] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Update the pipeline to include acceptance of 30 Imperial Aramaic characters with new block Imperial Aramaic at U+10840..U+1085F. [L2/07-197]

Script Subcommittee — Phoenician (C.7)

[112-C18] Consensus: Accept two Phoenician numbers at U+1091A PHOENICIAN NUMBER TWO and U+1091B PHOENICIAN NUMBER THREE as documented in L2/07-206 for encoding in a future version of the Unicode Standard.

[112-A46] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Update the pipeline for two Phoenician numbers at U+1091A PHOENICIAN NUMBER TWO and U+1091B PHOENICIAN NUMBER THREE as documented in L2/07-206.

Script Subcommittee — Inscriptional Parthian, Inscriptional Pahlavi, and Psalter Pahlavi (C.8)

[112-C19] Consensus: Accept 30 Inscriptional Parthian characters in a new block Inscriptional Parthian at U+10B40..U+10B5F as documented in L2/07-207 for encoding in a future version of the Unicode Standard.

[112-C20] Consensus: Accept 27 Inscriptional Pahlavi characters in a new block Inscriptional Pahlavi at U+10B60..U+10B7F as documented in L2/07-207 for encoding in a future version of the Unicode Standard.

[112-A47] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Update the pipeline to include 30 Inscriptional Parthian characters in new block Inscriptional Parthian U+10B40..U+10B5F and 27 Inscriptional Pahlavi characters in new block Inscriptional Pahlavi U+10B60..U+10B7F. [L2/07-207]

[112-A48] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Relay feedback from the Scripts Subcommittee to Michael Everson regarding Psalter Pahlavi.

Script Subcommittee — Samaritan (C.13)

[112-A49] Action Item for Peter Constable: Relay input to WG2 that Samaritan is not ready for encoding. [L2/07-231]

[112-A50] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Open a discussion on the Unicore list regarding the architectural issues with Samaritan that require UTC feedback. [L2/07-231]

Script Subcommittee — Bamum (C.18)

[112-C21] Consensus: UTC supports the request to remove Bamum from Amendment 5 pending further evidence of consensus from the stakeholder community. [L2/07-239]

[112-A51] Action Item for Michel Suignard: Add the request to remove Bamum to ballot comments on Amendment 5. [L2/07-239]

[112-A52] Action Item for Deborah Anderson: Forward L2/07-239 (a request to remove Bamum from Amendment 5) to WG2 for consideration at their next meeting.

Script Subcommittee — Uyghur Orkhun (C.10)

[112-A53] Action Item for Peter Constable: Relay input to WG2 that Uyghur Orkhun (WG2 N3258) is not ready for addition to a ballot. [L2/07-216]

Administrative — Approval of Minutes (A.5.1)

[112-C22] Consensus: Approve the minutes for Joint Meeting UTC 111/L2 208 as documented in L2/07-118R.

Properties — Middle Dots (B.14.6)

[112-C23] Consensus: Accept U+2E37 WORD SEPARATOR MIDDLE DOT for encoding in a future version of the Unicode standard. [L2/07-258, L2/07-260]

[112-A54] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Update the pipeline to reflect acceptance of U+2E37 WORD SEPARATOR MIDDLE DOT for encoding in a future version of the Unicode standard. [L2/07-258, L2/07-260]

[112-A55] Action Item for Michel Suignard: Add to comments on Avestan to move U+10B38 to U+2E37, and change the name to WORD SEPARATOR MIDDLE DOT. [L2/07-258, L2/07-260]

Script Subcommittee — Greek Mute Iota

[112-A56] Action Item for Lisa Moore: Put C.4 and C.4.1 on the agenda for the next meeting. [L2/07-068, L2/07-198, L2/07-263]


UTC Attendance

Person                                 Representing          
Deborah Anderson U C Berkeley  
E.K. Bharat Bhushan India Gov't  
Susan Colowick Utilika  
Peter Constable Microsoft  
Mark Davis Google  
Laurenţiu Iancu self  
John Jenkins Apple  
Michael Kaplan Microsoft  
Swaran Lata India Gov't  
Will Lewis Microsoft  
Rick McGowan Unicode  
Lisa Moore IBM  
Steve Moran U of W  
Eric Muller Adobe  
Jonathan Pool Utilika  
Lynn Ruggles HP  
Murray Sargent Microsoft  
Peter Scharf Brown Univ  
Shawn Steele Microsoft  
Michel Suignard Microsoft  
V S Umamaheswaran IBM  
Ken Whistler Sybase  
     
By Phone
     
Richard Cook U C Berkeley  
Michael Everson Evertype  
Matthias Mittelstein SAP  
Kat Momoi Google  
Marcus Scherer Google  
     

Members Represented

  August 6     August 7     August 8     August 9 August 10
  SouthAsia    Scripts Plenary
Full          
1. Adobe Systems, Inc. yes yes yes yes yes
2. Apple, Inc. yes yes yes yes yes
3. Denic e. G. no no no no no
4. Google, Inc. yes yes yes yes yes
5. Hewlett Packard no yes yes yes yes
6. IBM Corporation yes yes yes yes yes
7. JustSystem Corporation yes (proxy) yes (proxy) yes (proxy) yes (proxy) yes (proxy)
8. Microsoft Corporation yes yes yes yes yes
9. Oracle Corporation no no no no no
10. SAP AG no no no yes no
11. Sun Microsystems, Inc. no no no no no
12. Sybase, Inc. yes yes yes yes yes
13. Yahoo! no no no no no
           
Institutional          
1. India, MIT yes yes yes yes yes
2. Pakistan, NLA no no no no no
3. Tamil Nadu, Gov't no no no no no
4. UC Berkeley yes yes yes yes yes
           
Supporting          
1. Basis Technology Corp. no no no no no
2. Monotype Imaging Corp. no no no no no